Clarkkent Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 The American website www.secularhumanism.org reveals that George W Bush attempted to convince Jacques Chirac to join his Iraq invasion by stating that Gog and Magog, the Bible’s satanic agents of the Apocalypse, were threatening Israel. In a telephone conversation with the French president he said “Gog and Magog are at work in the Middle East…. The biblical prophecies are being fulfilled…. This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people’s enemies before a New Age begins.” This story has also appeared in the Guardian and appears to be well attested.On inauguration, American presidents place their hands on the bible and swear to uphold the constitution. It seems Mr Bush managed to confuse these two documents.How was it that the (currently) most powerful nation on Earth managed to elect a man who, to many people appeared to be an inarticulate, ex-alcoholic, intellectually-challenged fundamentalist as its commander- in- chief? It has been suggested that his greatest support came from the Bible Belt, where people thought he would outlaw abortion. About 40% of Americans deny the concept of evolution. These are the people who think that the world was created on a Sunday evening in October 6,000 years ago, that antediluvian children played with pet dinosaurs, and that the rapture of the End Times is imminent.Perhaps the End Times ARE near, but that won’t be anything to with God, but the deluded people who claim to act in his, her or its name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 If ever asked about my religious beliefs I always reply thats its not God I have a problem with, just religion. [:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejc Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 A smart American who appeared quite rationale and held down a pretty high powered job, once told me in all seriousness that believing in evolution was like parking a mini in your driveway and waking up expecting it to have turned into a Bentley Turbo....... I kid you not....... strangely enough he didn't want to talk about the Galapagos Finches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 The Bible also tells us not to murder and kill. But I guess Mr Bush didn't get that far in his bedtime reading.Whether god exists or not, who knows? I certainly don't and I don't believe anyone on earth does know. That's why it's such a dangerous thing to be messing around with, especially at his level.I always thought the American constitution was founded on non religious grounds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Trunk Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 ...and these people have the biggest nuclear arsenal in the world in their control... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 ...and have already used it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Some people still worship the Sun........ Others the Mail and the Telegraph, still easily corrupted [:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patmobile Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Sun worship is far more logical and sensible than old-man-in-the-sky worship.You can see the sun, and if it wasn't there you would die. Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Not true. You could be on a spaceship with central heating and some plants and you would live without the sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buelligan Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 I'm not completely sure that is correct Richard, but I like the cut of your jib me hearty (and I'm sure the Supreme Being - the great Flying Spaghetti Monster will forgive you in its ultimate wisdom and compassion). I am a convinced Pastafarian [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster[/url]. I find the tiresome attachment to the darker side of the Bible so tawdrily wagged in our faces by the likes of Bush terribly disappointing (and rather insulting). As someone pointed out earlier in this thread, if only Bush and his ilk espoused some of the more "Christian" of Christian values, the ordinary people of this planet might be a little safer (and quite a few of them would not be dead).[:(] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 [quote user="buelligan"]I'm not completely sure that is correct Richard, but I like the cut of your jib me hearty (and I'm sure the Supreme Being - the great Flying Spaghetti Monster will forgive you in its ultimate wisdom and compassion). I am a convinced Pastafarian [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster[/url]. I find the tiresome attachment to the darker side of the Bible so tawdrily wagged in our faces by the likes of Bush terribly disappointing (and rather insulting). As someone pointed out earlier in this thread, if only Bush and his ilk espoused some of the more "Christian" of Christian values, the ordinary people of this planet might be a little safer (and quite a few of them would not be dead).[:(][/quote]It is correct. I've seen it on Star Trek. And to a certain extent Star Wars, but they didn't have any plants on their spaceships, so I'm thinking that one's a little far fetched.[;-)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Was it the film dark star or silent running that had the gardens on board?It was silent running Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braco Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 While it is easy to mock Americans lets not forget the huge number that were happy to follow GWB’s poodle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buelligan Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 I do apologise Braco! I, for one, would never confine my derision to just one racial group. I should have made it quite clear in my posting that my disdain is freely available to all hypocrites regardless of creed, colour, sexual orientation and so on...[:D][;-)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braco Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 No need to apologise My only point is that the American ignorance and racism that has brought us to our knee’s was helped along in no small part by the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRoss Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Fear not the Doctor will save us with the help of Martha Jones. Mind you he did make a bit of a mess of Pompeii...........JR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 And I believe the Doctor has a pot plant in his TARDIS, thereby proving that it is possible to survive without the sun.Or was that just Catharine Tate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRoss Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Nah odd ood...............................JRhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7gm45fmE_Ihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyril_Fletcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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