Clair Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Foreigners: morestringent residency conditionsPublishedon 17/06/2011The law on immigration, integration andcitizenship was published in the Official Gazette on Friday, June 17,2011.Foreign nationals wanting to live in France will besubject to further condition in order to respect the "contractof welcome and integration". In case of non compliance with theterms of this contract, the prefect may refuse the renewal ofresidence permit. [...] In addition, a "bill of rightsand duties of the French citizen" must be signed by allforeigners wishing to obtain French nationality. […]Finally, a foreign national, whethercitizen of the EU or not, present in France for less than 3 years,may be expelled from the territory in case of threats to public order(which includes the offences of theft, aggressive begging and illegaloccupation of land); an EU citizen could be expelled from theterritory in case of abuse of the right to short stay (less than 3months).Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 [quote user="Clair"]Finally, a foreign national, whether citizen of the EU or not, present in France for less than 3 years, may be expelled from the territory in case of threats to public order (which includes the offence of illegal occupation of land); an EU citizen could be expelled from the territory in case of abuse of the right to short stay (less than 3 months).[/quote]No prizes for guessing what that's about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tj Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 about time too!!!! need to do the same in uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Foreign nationals wanting to live in France will be subject to further condition in order to respect the "contract of welcome and integration". In case of non compliance with the terms of this contract, the prefect may refuse the renewal of residence permit. [...] Forgive my ignorance-does foreign national mean non EU resident? I thought EU residents didn't need a residence permit so how can they refuse renewal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 This is in the same vein (racist) as the pressure to stop Binationality coming from the FN and the right of the UMP.By 'foreigners' they mean Maghrebins, but in the case of Binationality I can't see Carla Bruni or Eva Joly being very happy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5-element Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 ...or me...[:'(] even though I don't count quite as much[:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Ah, Norman, you mean the Brownness Test: the browner you are, the less welcome you are. Where does thata leava Mada. Brunia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5-element Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Do freckles count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Only if they are joined up! You can get special surgery to separate them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pommier Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 The odd thing that I've found is that the more 'Christian' people are (sorry, by that I mean churchgoing, grace saying folk) the more racist they are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KathyF Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Not in my experience, Pommier, but what do I know? I'm just a retired vicar...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pommier Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 But how well did you know your congregation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KathyF Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 In small country parishes over a number of years, rather well. I've seen more (veiled) racism in the Daily Mail than I've ever heard from any of my parishioners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbie Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 [quote user="woolybanana"]Ah, Norman, you mean the Brownness Test: the browner you are, the less welcome you are. Where does thata leava Mada. Brunia?[/quote]Does this mean that albinos are especially welcome? [:P] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherman Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Occasionally I may inadvertently make a comment which may upset one or two peoples sensibilities but I take my hat off to you Pommier you have managed to insult an estimated 85 million practicing Christians around the world. I can’t wait to hear your theories on the other world religions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idun Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Sort of a relief to me when someone else makes such a comment. Personally, I have no faith in religions and little in their believers. And I'm not sure if I believe in Richard Dawkins either! but he does make a lot of sense to me, never the less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherman Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Like it or not the Christian tradition is the very basis of our current western secular civic society. In fact secularism has now become in itself a religion condemning all other belief systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 I think the majority of Christians, Muslims, Hindu etc etc etc are decent caring folk who find that their religion helps them through life's difficult decisions and guides them well. The trouble is the extremists and the politically motivated folk who use/distort religion to order to manipulate the masses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbie Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 [quote user="JohnM"]I think the majority of Christians, Muslims, Hindu etc etc etc are decent caring folk who find that their religion helps them through life's difficult decisions and guides them well. The trouble is the extremists and the politically motivated folk who use/distort religion to order to manipulate the masses.[/quote]In my experience the vast majority of people are decent caring folk regardless of their religion or lack of it. I believe the ethics put forward by Jesus are very sensible and can be summed up by saying "Do as you would be done by" which would lead to a very pleasant and fair society if everyone followed that. My problem is that I cannot believe in a supernatural being with the paucity of evidence to support that proposition. However if other do find the evidence convincing then that's fine by me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idun Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 I agree, I reckon most people are decent and caring without any labels. I once discussed this with a psychiatrist that I know and he said that for many it was a necessity and often a crutch to help people in their lives and sometimes to actually live. If anyone would be a candidate for a crutch, it would probably be me at the moment, I have a big pile of bouse in my life at the moment, which is getting bigger by the minute. But no, I'll do what I can and get on with 'life'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinabee Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 [quote user="idun"] I agree, I reckon most people are decent and caring without any labels. I once discussed this with a psychiatrist that I know and he said that for many it was a necessity and often a crutch to help people in their lives and sometimes to actually live. If anyone would be a candidate for a crutch, it would probably be me at the moment, I have a big pile of bouse in my life at the moment, which is getting bigger by the minute. But no, I'll do what I can and get on with 'life'. [/quote]Idun - I have to say thank you for increasing my French vocabulary [:)]Every time I see a word in one of your posts that I don't recognise, I look it up - bouse will be really useful for me (living in rural Normandy)[:D]BTW good luck dealing with your bouse - I hope it goes away soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurier Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 ...me to ... scurrying to the dictionary, I mean ... such a great word to have on the back burner!L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audio Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Take a short cut across Giles’s land and you would soon learn the meaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idun Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 [Www] I have a very colourful french vocabulary[;-)]! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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