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You mean Dirty Dancing, where people rub themselves together and get all sweaty and then the lights go out and all we here are primaeval grunts and screams? Sound like the cats outside the house at night? Yep, that's it in one, Sweets. Guess you have been and seen these things! 
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[quote user="woolybanana"][quote user="Quillan"]

[quote user="Rabbie"]However now that the case has been dropped we probably will never know exactly what did happen[/quote]

Exactly.

The only way DSK can show his complete innocence (or guilt) is for the case to go ahead. To me it is now in 'limbo land' which I think is worse.

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Ahhh, limboland. Q, are you suggesting that dancing and other sexually encouraging activities might have been involved??[6]

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Oh Wooly as sharp as a barbers razor as always. [;-)]

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Frenchie, whatever you think of the woman in question, isn't it a whole lot better that all the facts about DSK came out before anyone thought of making him President........

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Honestly, I think it is such a waste...  In a sense, she's the winner, as I think it was a set up . The result is here : he can't run for presidency .

I'm with Pierre ZPF " I'm not saying DSK is an angel by any means but the whole thing smells of 'Setup' right from the beginning and has had the desired result. DSK asperation to High Office is scuppered.  Being booted out of the IMF was a bonus. "

 

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[quote user="woolybanana"]You mean Dirty Dancing, where people rub themselves together and get all sweaty and then the lights go out and all we here are primaeval grunts and screams? Sound like the cats outside the house at night? Yep, that's it in one, Sweets. Guess you have been and seen these things! [/quote]

No, Cheeky Banana, I have only read about these things through your posts here![:D]

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[quote user="Frenchie"]Honestly, I think it is such a waste...  In a sense, she's the winner, as I think it was a set up . [/quote]

I don't think she is a winner in any way. Some form of sex act involving semen does not seem to be in dispute - though I have not followed the case as assiduously as others so maybe that has been disproved. I seem to remember a statement from the DSK lawyers along the lines that any sexual act, if it took place, was consensual. If I am remembering it correctly, weasel words like that cannot mean anything other than sex of some form did take place. With a hotel maid. That being the case, DSK is a pillock... I don't believe in a conspiracy here or in set ups but allowing for a moment that it was a set up, how could he have made it any easier for the perpetrators? If anyone threw a career away it was DSK himself.

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[quote user="Catalpa"][quote user="Frenchie"]Honestly, I think it is such a waste...  In a sense, she's the winner, as I think it was a set up . [/quote]
I don't think she is a winner in any way. Some form of sex act involving semen does not seem to be in dispute - though I have not followed the case as assiduously as others so maybe that has been disproved. I seem to remember a statement from the DSK lawyers along the lines that any sexual act, if it took place, was consensual. If I am remembering it correctly, weasel words like that cannot mean anything other than sex of some form did take place. With a hotel maid. That being the case, DSK is a pillock... I don't believe in a conspiracy here or in set ups but allowing for a moment that it was a set up, how could he have made it any easier for the perpetrators? If anyone threw a career away it was DSK himself.

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Something I said pages back and I couldn't agree more. A high profile politician, chairman of the IMF, possibly a future president of France, what on earth possessed the man. Was he that stupid not to think that he wouldn't be left open to blackmail or that the woman would not sell her story to the highest bidder and that's based on it being consensual. If it wasn't what else did he think was going to happen, the police would say never mind don't do it again? Sadly it seems that this is a prime example of a bloke who allows whats in his trousers to rule over his brain. A sad example of a man and a disgrace to his sex. France should think it's self lucky that he will not now stand for the presidency.

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[quote user="Frenchie"]The result is here : he can't run for presidency . [/quote]

Thank goodness for that [:D]

[quote user="Catalpa"]... DSK is a pillock... If anyone threw a career away it was DSK himself.[/quote]

Exactly.

I am pleased his character has been so publicly revealed and so widely discussed.

He is a man with sleazy morals  and no sense of propriety.

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[quote user="Quillan"] what on earth possessed the man. Sadly it seems that this is a prime example of a bloke who allows whats in his trousers to rule over his brain. A sad example of a man and a disgrace to his sex. France should think it's self lucky that he will not now stand for the presidency.[/quote]

Indeed, obviously not enough blood for both of them at the same time, despite this calamity it seems it will take more than this to prevent his political rise . . .

Socialist Party chief Martine Aubry called it 'an immense relief' that prosecutors asked a judge to put an end to the case based on concerns about the accuser's credibility, and said on France-Info radio today: 'We were all waiting for this ... for him to finally be able to get out of this nightmare.'
The man who replaced Strauss-Khan as favourite for the Socialist Party presidential nomination yesterday said the former IMF chief's political comeback could be 'envisaged'.
Francois Hollande told France Inter Radio: 'A man with the abilities of Dominique Strauss-Kahn can be useful to his country in the months and years to come.'

- Mon dieu!

 

 

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[quote user="Frenchie"][quote user="Russethouse"]

Frenchie, whatever you think of the woman in question, isn't it a whole lot better that all the facts about DSK came out before anyone thought of making him President........

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Honestly, I think it is such a waste...  In a sense, she's the winner, as I think it was a set up . The result is here : he can't run for presidency .

I'm with Pierre ZPF " I'm not saying DSK is an angel by any means but the whole thing smells of 'Setup' right from the beginning and has had the desired result. DSK asperation to High Office is scuppered.  Being booted out of the IMF was a bonus. "

 

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 If it was a set up it was done because he has a flaw - imagine how awful it would have been if he acted inappropriatley while in Office as President ? Gone too far with Angela Merkel for example......it really doesn't bear thinking about,(but makes me smile !!![:D] )

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I think that apart from the 'fanatical' public sector workers who would hope that as President he would leave wages, pensions and retirement age alone or possibly undo anything done currently most people I have talked to who may of voted for him before wouldn't vote for him after all this. Apparently the French have the same saying, "no smoke without fire" and that's what those to whom I have spoken to first hand have said. Anyway very few people of his age in recent times have ever made a comeback from this position.
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[quote user="Richard51"]Good grief, Frenchie, you don't honestly admire a pi11ock like DSK do you?   At least other women are forewarned.....

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I never said I " admired " him.

Just glad he got justice. Rough justice but justice anyway .[:)]

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[quote user="Frenchie"]

[quote user="Richard51"]Good grief, Frenchie, you don't honestly admire a pi11ock like DSK do you?   At least other women are forewarned.....

 Mrs R51
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I never said I " admired " him.

Just glad he got justice. Rough justice but justice anyway .[:)]

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I don't want to be pedantic here but in my view he has not had justice. Justice in this case would be a court case and him being found not guilty. If you are innocent but have been accused of something I would have thought you would welcome the opportunity to prove your innocence once and for all. Unless that is you have a few more skeletons in your closet that you don't want people to know about. As it is he has been cleared but not exonerated as many French journalists have pointed out. He now has to live with this uncertainty as does the party he represented (or represents, whichever). By the next time he can run for the presidency he will be 66 at best or even 67 years old and I think people will want a more younger person who is more 'in tune' with the people and in particular the young people. Yes he may make a 'comeback' in to French politics but not to the level to which he once aspired.

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