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[quote user="Chancer"]You may not agree with Sarkozy marrying so soon and I understand entirely your viewpoint but at least he was decisive and did things in the correct order.[/quote]

I cannot remember agreeing or disagreeing with Sarko's conjugal decisions, either when he was with Cécilia (and I remember a forum member trying to engage us in a discussion about her at the time) or with Carla.

With hindsight, it was undoubtedly a good decision for them to come out so early in their relationship.

At least, they were both single and there was no deception of a third-party when they got together.

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[quote user="Chancer"]By the way does Flamby mean the same as Humpty dumpty or is it another egg shaped cartoon character?[/quote]

No problem, Chancer [:)]

I believe Flamby came up as a nickname during the presidential campaign to summarise his wobbly indecision, his flip-flops...

I call him Humpty Dumpty because... I mean, look at him! [:D]

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I always refer to him as M Patapouf simply because that's what Canteloube (on TF1) calls him,  at least when he's imitating Frau Merkel.    French people who don't watch Canteloube (and therefore don't know the reference) still immediately twig to whom I am referring,   and think it's very funny.

In the interests of impartiality the same comedian imitating the same Frau always greets Sarkozy as "Mon Petit Playmobile",  which is equally apt.

One of our elderly neighbours said last spring that Canteloube's mocking of M Patapouf was about the only thing keeping her going,  so I imagine she's enjoying the current chaos.   And she's not what one might think would be his natural audience....

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I don't think he looks like Humpty Dumpty, he looks stiff and robotic to me, sometimes the lip sync looks like it is just out.

Girlfriends / boyfriends / mistresses / lovers.............. unless one is signed up then they can do as they like..............at what point is fidelity expected???????

I realise that some marriages are 'open', but I betchya most of us wouldn't like that, or in fact could cope with it either. Not that I expect anyone to stay in a loveless, unhappy marriage, but my thought is, if it is that bad, move on.

And the rottweiller, well surely her time is over now. How can it not be.

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Re the various nicknames for Hollande, this article gives the attributions of some:

http://www.lepoint.fr/politique/de-flanby-a-pepere-tous-les-surnoms-d-hollande-10-04-2013-1653042_20.php

I quite like "Guimauve le conquerant".

I get the feeling that the media senses blood: when they start wheeling out old clips such as:

http://www.midilibre.fr/2014/01/17/quand-hollande-disait-moi-president-je-ferai-que-mon-comportement-soit-exemplaire,809339.php

http://www.midilibre.fr/2014/01/16/quand-segolene-royal-demandait-francois-hollande-en-mariage,809029.php

... it looks rather like "open season" has been declared.

But, there's good news ...

http://www.midilibre.fr/2014/01/17/baisse-possible-des-impots-des-2016-si-on-peut-faire-plus-vite-on-ira-plus-vite,809458.php

... if one takes note of the word "possible", takes the whole article with a large pinch of salt, and then remembers when the next election is ...

And then someone has had the final word on behalf of everybody, railing against BOTH sides of the political class:

http://www.midilibre.fr/2014/01/16/paris-un-camioneur-deverse-du-fumier-devant-l-assemblee-nationale,809018.php

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FWIW I said in May 2012 that I didn't think Patapouf would finish his five year term.   Of course the French said "mais c'est impossible" to which I naturally replied that they were already on their Vth republic and I didn't see that a sixth one should present much in the way of problems.

And I stick by it.   I'm not sure it'll be this particular banana skin but I still believe Patapouf will somehow be chased from the Elysee before 2017.

As someone else has said, blood has been scented....

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Actually I think he (Norman) has suffered enough.   Although he's quite capable of defending himself.

In all honesty there are a lot of disappointed people out there who voted for Patapouf really believing that he would be better than Sarkozy,  and I actually do have a lot of sympathy with them.  I'm a great believer in the idea of "letting the other fella have a turn" even if the other fella's policies aren't in agreement with my own.

So whilst I might think "told you so" to myself countless times a day I also really do feel for those whose disappointment is all too genuine.

And I fear for the future of France,  a country (and a people) with whom I've had a life-long love affair.   With the UMP in complete disarray the way is open for Marine....

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I am disappointed in the asinine level of the non- 'debate'. Simply showing off insulting nicknames which have been borrowed  half-understood from  French sources does not mean that the poster has said anything of interest.

What exactly has Valerie Trierweiler done to merit the name 'Rottweiler'?  This seems to me to be vaguely xenophobe reference to her Germanic sounding married name (her maiden name was Massoneau, but that is harder to turn to insult) but apart from living with Hollande who is a target for the rabid right I fail to see any justification for her being so detested. I feel sorry for her at being pushed to the brink of taking 'a tablet too many' by the media revelations about her partner.

'Flamby' is fair enough as a description for Hollande conjuring up the wobbly blancmange-like texture of the sweet caramel dessert of that name, but why ignore the fact that he is trying to put in place, albeit belatedly measures that neither Sarkozy nor Chirac took in the period 1995-2012, the years in which nothing was done to modernise France

Nor am I very interested in scandal and gossip although I agree that a man who can cheat on his partner cannot be trusted.

On the other hand if one is muck-raking

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/nicolas-sarkozy/10352637/Nicolas-Sarkozys-shocking-comments-lost-him-election-says-ex-wife.html

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[quote user="NormanH"]What exactly has Valerie Trierweiler done to merit the name 'Rottweiler'? [/quote]

I have read several articles this week which state she was given the nickname after she slapped a man (colleague?) whose hands had wandered where they were not welcome...

It could be that the articles were merely repeating and/or embellishing a single comment...

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Perhaps if Sarkozy hadn't been so vilified - including by several people on this forum (dwarf was an insult constantly used against him) - we wouldn't be in this situation.

What's dished out tends to come round.   I got fed up with the childish hysterical campaign against Sarkozy,  so forgive me if I relish pay-back time.

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Norman, what exactly disturbs you in this; that the little man has been caught out as a lying toad, that he is left wing(?) and has the morals of an alley cat or that he has finally discovered political wisdom, at least in part, after having done more damage to France and the French pocket book than any president in memory, except Mitterand who used his Nazi past to control the press and opinion. But who was a moral rat too.

The advantage of the Anglo-Saxon system is that the little scooter rider would have had to resign, whereas Hollande, like his equivalent, Mr Bersusconi can behave as he likes and still continue to ruin this country and line his pocket.

Shame on the French system, but the De Gaulle could never have imagined the bunch of cynical, grasping, pocket filling tur*s that could have succeeded him and destroyed his legacy.
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NormanH said: What exactly has Valerie Trierweiler done to merit the name 'Rottweiler'?

Well I called her that before I had seen it mentioned elsewhere, and why, you wonder? Well, when the oaf got into the presidency, she was walking along just behind him, but hung on his shoulder like she was a body guard. A stony unsavoury type. I was rather shocked when she then joined him on a podium.

IMO she is a very hard faced woman, I'm not saying that she is unattractive, but what is there, is hard.

AND when all is said and done, she is just the bloody girlfriend and for all the french are paying for her staff and office, he, the president, can go and do who and what he pleases, he isn't signed up to her or anyone else and never has been!

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[quote user="idun"]I was rather shocked when she then joined him on a podium.[/quote]

Exactly.  She joined him on the podium.

In an essentially socialistic and meritocratic society, we do not expect to see the son dragged up to the podium, nor the daughter;   and we do not expect to see the blatant nepotistic promotion grandchildren or of 'nephews'.  So what was this character doing there ?  And what remote claim does this unimportant person have on one single second of our time or our attention ?

When President Félix Faure met his interesting and entertaining demise he was (unsurprisingly) in the company of a 'lady'.  She was not in fact his First Lady, but  -  given the definitive nature of his final apoplexy  -  she was certainly his Last.

She had the common sense and discretion to remove herself swiftly by the petite porte.  This final and intimate companion of the President of France remained mercifully anonymous, and her only lasting memorial was the corset (in which she did not have the time to reinvest herself), which Le Gall grabbed as a souvenir.

I wish that Hollande's various insignificant attachments were as discreet and as non-apparent as Félix Faure's.

   

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I think Norman might be labouring under the misconception that people who dislike Hollande (for whatever reason, but the inference is that it's his politics they don't like...though, heaven knows, he seems to have relegated them to a very poor third place behind his various private lives so who can blame others for doing the same?) are automatically "the rabid right". I'm very equal-opportunities about this: I loathed Sarkozy, too.

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The right to privacy is a fine idea. However, in this case, Hollande has been grossly indiscreet, and subsequently his actions - and those of his partners and colleagues - have only served to bring his indiscretion to the fore. It really IS a case of him allowing his private life to impinge on his public office. At a time when many in France (particularly in small businesses) would be only too delighted to have enough time outside work-time to run between two lovers, one is tempted to wonder what the heck makes him think that France is in such a good state that he can "lie back" and do as little as he has thus far?

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[quote user="Pickles"] one is tempted to wonder what the heck makes him think that France is in such a good state that he can "lie back" and do as little as he has thus far?

[/quote]From what has already been said in this thread, perhaps it is better for France if he doesn't interfere.

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Journal du Dimanche (translated) article  HERE.

Paris Match (translated) article HERE. (This is the mag Valérie Trierweiler works for.)

The comments below the article are a fair representation of how she is viewed by a majority of the general public: a materialistic, manipulative, scorned woman who is getting what's due to her.

(I have no personal view on her character; I just wish she'd grow a backbone and take charge of her life rather than wait for Dimwit to decide who he wants to be with...[:@])

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Bloomin Google translate wont let me view the original articles and I dont want to read the translation [:(]

I was of the opinion that she was driving this whole thing and it was Hollande who was the invertibrate, it will be interesting to see in the fullness of time who had the testicles and/or whether they were being squeezed.

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The Economist has a good leader article on the issue ...

http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21594257-our-wildest-fantasy-if-only-french-ran-america-la-maison-blanche

Read carefully ... it IS intended as a skit ...

Meanwhile, Hollande's own people seem to be keeping his private life in public view ... whilst stabbing him in the back?

http://www.midilibre.fr/2014/01/22/un-proche-de-francois-hollande-si-trierweiler-revient-j-arrete-tout,811835.php

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