Charlie Hebdo

[Quillan]

[quote user="Gluestick"][quote user="Quillan"]

I don't know the French seem to manage it.

http://moicani.over-blog.com/article-bonnefemme-de-neige-snow-woman-121562078.html

 

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Ah, however, being pedantic, they look like Snow Women to me.

Unless, naturally, they are intended to represent transvestites who have enjoyed large injections of hormones........

[Www]
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I'm sure you get my drift. [;-)]

What it does prove is that we don't have the monopoly on stupidity.

[woolybanana]

If the snow women wore a burka, would that be ok?

[PaulT]

John Kerry has said they should have sent someone more senior. Could have sent George Bush Junior as the representative but he would have wanted to just fly over the march :)

After last Wednesday they said that the next issue of Charlie Hebdo would have a 1 million print run instead of the normal 60,000. Last night it was said that it will now be 3 million. One nwes vendor who normally takes 2 copies has ordered 1,000.

So news vendors are going to make quite a bit of money as people buy them, especially if the 3 million sell.

The assassins will have totally failed because those who did not know about Charlie Hebdo now do and may buy the publication thus increasing circulation instead of closing it down.

For the publishers what if there is a backlash and people think that the cartoons are insulting to muslims.

[Gluestick]

[quote user="PaulT"]

For the publishers what if there is a backlash and people think that the cartoons are insulting to muslims.[/quote]

The publishers will thereafter print and sell 6 Million!

And thereafter move into a purpose built high security building............

Forecast: how long before the original mags are offered as collectibles on fleabay?

Don't know if anyone has seen this brilliant ventriloquist?

Here

[idun]

I bet that they'll run out this week. HOWEVER, for anyone who has not read Charlie Hebdo, it is blunt to say the least and will offend many. It always has, and I have no doubt that it still will. So how many copies will be bought in the future, who knows; I daresay that those who run Charlie Hebdo realise this.

[vette]

"Gluestick" "Quillan" I don't know the French seem to manage it.

http://moicani.over-blog.com/article-bonnefemme-de-neige-snow-woman- Ah, however, being pedantic, they look like Snow Women to me. Unless, naturally, they are intended to represent transvestites who have enjoyed large injections of hormones........ What's the difference between a Snowman and a Snow-woman. Snowballs!

[Gluestick]

Brilliant riposte!

[:D]

[Frederick]

[quote user="woolybanana"]If the snow women wore a burka, would that be ok?[/quote]

Not unless she was really young The prophet took a wife when she was six and into his bed when she was nine

[Alan Zoff]

That was OK, though, Frederick. It was in the rules.

Just remind me. Who came up with these rules?

[mint]

[quote user="Frederick"][quote user="woolybanana"]If the snow women wore a burka, would that be ok?[/quote]

Not unless she was really young The prophet took a wife when she was six and into his bed when she was nine[/quote]

So paedophilia has a long history?  As they say, there's nothing new under the sun.

[CSV]

[quote user="mint"][quote user="Frederick"] The prophet took a wife when she was six and into his bed when she was nine[/quote]

So paedophilia has a long history?  As they say, there's nothing new under the sun.

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Probably not.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2012/sep/17/muhammad-aisha-truth

[mint]

Thank you for posting such an interesting article, CSV.

Mine was just a throwaway comment, not supposed to be taken seriously or literally.

I am not surprised by the controversies and different interpretations and it would be a very brave person to thump a table and say this is correct but not that because these accounts are so ancient.

I have an OH who is almost obsessively reading about the early Christian church. He has been deeply into the latest publication by Irvine Finkel called "The Ark before Noah" and only this afternoon, in discussion with friends, he has said that the more he has delved, the more he has doubted the authenticity of received accounts from the both testaments of the Bible.

The people that you can't argue with are fundamentalists, be they Muslims or Christians as they are both as ridiculous as each other and they do not appear to have any sort of reasoning power.

BTW, neither of us are formal practising members of any religion.

[Gluestick]

All of which rather neatly espouses the core difference between (Supposed!) civilised Western society and incomers demanding their quaint social and religious mores be imposed upon the extant majority..........

No other migrants in British history have created so much dust!

They, quietly still followed their faith and fundamentally integrated, sans excessive show and demands.

I well remember when one Jerry Lee Lewis, in 1958, pitched up in Britain for a concert tour, accompanied by his 13 year old wife......

Quote: (Source Wiki ) OK: this was common amongst "Cracker" communities, Hill People and Red Necks up until the early 1950s.

Whilst various initiatives have been mounted to lower the age of consent, they have, to date, all failed: and rightly so. (Since Western society is contemporaneously bedevilled by what I describe as "Arrested Development ", particularly emotionally, I would raise the age of consent to, probably, 25!)

However, in other nation states, "Selling" a daughter into wedlock remains a convenient route to gaining large capital sums.

One can (Attempt to!) justify many actions in the name and cause, ostensibly, of "Religion": doesn't make it morally or socially right, however.

[Théière]

[quote user="mint"]Thank you for posting such an interesting article, CSV.

Mine was just a throwaway comment, not supposed to be taken seriously or literally.

I am not surprised by the controversies and different interpretations and it would be a very brave person to thump a table and say this is correct but not that because these accounts are so ancient.

I have an OH who is almost obsessively reading about the early Christian church. He has been deeply into the latest publication by Irvine Finkel called "The Ark before Noah" and only this afternoon, in discussion with friends, he has said that the more he has delved, the more he has doubted the authenticity of received accounts from the both testaments of the Bible.

The people that you can't argue with are fundamentalists, be they Muslims or Christians as they are both as ridiculous as each other and they do not appear to have any sort of reasoning power.

BTW, neither of us are formal practising members of any religion.

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Perhaps it's because most scriptures are really even older Babylonian stories just adapted, re packaged and resold, the best sales BS of all time so far. If you don't believe we'll either give you hell and damnation for all time or just kill you now or both.

[Alan Zoff]

Religion has always been about control.

Hope that is not too intellectual, pseudo or otherwise, for some.

[Théière]

[quote user="Alan Zoff"]Religion has always been about control.

Hope that is not too intellectual, pseudo or otherwise, for some.[/quote]

Yes and hasn't it worked well, the soppy sods all want dress like each other. Bah, bah

[Gentillylace]

This is my first post to this forum, so please forgive any infelicities. I live in a suburb of Los Angeles. My mother, who speaks no French, wants a copy of the latest edition of Charlie Hebdo. I told her about the extreme difficulty of getting a copy of the latest edition of Charlie Hebdo in the US. Fortunately, I have a Facebook friend in Lyon (we communicate via private message for a couple of hours a couple of times a week) who said that she would try to get an extra copy of the latest edition of Charlie Hebdo for my mother and mail it to me. (That is very sweet of my friend to offer to do so!) When (God willing) it arrives in the mail, I can then translate it (poorly!) for my mother. Hope it is worth it :-)

[woolybanana]

Copies are as rare as hen's teeth at the moment but they are reprinting; my local newsagent had presold all her allocation and is hoping to fill orders when more copies come in tomorrow and Friday. The print run has been 5 million which should be enough but it is touch and go I reckon. A little patience needed I think.

[idun]

Well, I saw two opposing muslim points of view about the front cover today. One saying that they thought that prophet would have approved, and another believing that 1.6 billion muslims would be offended.

Then a be-scarved young french woman, saying that it was an outrage and that the prophet was sacred.

And the thing that has worried me most, was hearing of some children as young as 10 who would not accept that there should be  a minute's silence in school. Not many, but never the less, it happened. Just how indoctrinated can one make a child to stand up like this, against the establishment.

And the parents of these already, well are they 'radicalised' children, what are they up to? I acknowledge that there is a problem in France with the cité and some banilieu, but, is living in France really 'worse' than say living in the backstreets of Cairo, or Sana'a. And if I make no bones about my views of the french education system, then I have to say that it exists and is available for all.

[Hoddy]

Ebay is worth a try. I hope your mother knows what she's asking for.

[vette]

They are quite happy to strap suicide bombs to 10 year old's, so not participating in a minutes silence comes as no surprise.

However, they're happy to move to almost every country that is not Islamic! And who do they blame when they don't get their own way? Not Islam... Not their leadership... Not themselves... THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!!

And they want to change the countries they're happy in, to be like the countries they came from where they were unhappy !!!!

Bizarre.

[Frederick]

Taking a mile when they are given an inch if they get away with it is looked on as getting one over on a weaker person ... No doubt something they will see to be proud of ... We cant impress our views and demands on the peoples of the countries they have left if we moved there we would not be permitted to get away with it . Its all one sided and none stop demands from them .... It will stop when they find that they are stood up and it appears with the number of right wing groups gaining popularity and coming together in the EU it may be sooner than they expect. They could then end up feeling like the Jews leaving France that it is something to consider .. We cant say we have not seen it coming its been brewing for years .

[Pickles]

There was an interesting item on Radio 4's Today programme this morning. A muslim shopkeeper (from Slough IIRC?) was shown a copy of the current Charlie Hebdo cover page and he immediately said that it was an affront and deeply offensive to him and all muslims. It was then explained to him what it meant, and he backtracked a smidgen, but even so he still went on to condone the murder of people who offend muslims.

Now, I think that he may have been "ambushed", but his knee-jerk reaction was offensive to me. I hope that he is given the opportunity to reflect on what he said "in the heat of the moment" and retracts his disgusting and deeply offensive statements.

[Gluestick]

[quote user="vette"]They are quite happy to strap suicide bombs to 10 year old's, so not participating in a minutes silence comes as no surprise.

However, they're happy to move to almost every country that is not Islamic! And who do they blame when they don't get their own way? Not Islam... Not their leadership... Not themselves... THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!!

And they want to change the countries they're happy in, to be like the countries they came from where they were unhappy !!!!

Bizarre.[/quote]

Rather, as Churchill suggested, vette, similar to the difference between Capitalism and Socialism; in that Capitalism allows a majority to share the benefits: whereas Socialism demands everyone share the miseries!

Once the host nation they have decided to impose themselves upon is utterly miserable and society ruined, then they incomers will be deliriously happy.

More so no doubt for those whose Jihadic endeavours have whisked 'em off to their 72 gorgeous unsullied Huris.........

[Pickles]

[quote user="Gluestick"]More so no doubt for those whose Jihadic endeavours have whisked 'em off to their 72 gorgeous unsullied Huris.........

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Just out of interest, what "reward" is supposed to wait in "paradise" for those unfortunate 10-year-old girls who are "persuaded" to blow themselves up?

Incidentally, the question is directed at anyone who may have an insight - Gluey's post just reminded me of this burning question ....