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I have recently purchased Anne Sloan chalk paint for some cupboards. I have read about the bleeding when working on pine, mines is 20 year old pine but it still showed dark patches after 3 coats. They mention a shellac primer/undercoat but some say that does not work. Can anyone tell me the French equivalent of shellac in France. I have bought a good French brand sous couche interior and exterior microporeuse but fear this is not what I need.

The product as sold needing no pre prepping but this is untrue and there is very little AS product guidance on this subject.

My first AS project and im not sure about starting another project with this product.
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Hi Sunshine,

This is a blog of an American lady setting out the reasons why she doesn't use 'chalk paint' including the problems you are experiencing.

In her blog she refers to this product which I know is sold by Screwfix UK and it does do what it says on the tin. As with any quality product you will pay a premium  but for another £5, delivery will be free.

Good luck with your project.

regards

cajal

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Shellac is available in France - try a well known auction site. You will need to look at the bricolage section, otherwise you will have pages of nail varnish offers to wade through.

Probably the most economic is to buy the solid flakes which are then dissolved in alcohol a brulee.

http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Liberon-Button-Shellac-250g-/172327721733?hash=item281f885b05:g:67QAAOSwFdtXyXtt
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Oh you can get Zinsser in France, I used to buy it in France, I think from a professional stockist, expensive stuff.

I have bought it in the UK since moving back, and frankly for some reason found the french stuff better, but there you go.

ps:The stuff I got,didn't half pong......

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[quote user="idun"]Oh you can get Zinsser in France, I used to buy it in France, I think from a professional stockist, expensive stuff.

I have bought it in the UK since moving back, and frankly for some reason found the french stuff better, but there you go.

ps:The stuff I got,didn't half pong......

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Zinsser B-I-N (UK)  £45.99 / 2.5lts

Zinsser B-I-N (FR)  €89.00 / 2.5lts

No  brainer really. France is an expensive and non- competitive country in many respects alongside the UK.  A couple of weeks ago I posted that I had purchased a Panasonic breadmaker from the UK for £59.99. The same model, cheapest price I could find at the time, in France was €250.

For one off specialist items, France is the last place I would research.  Best of both worlds, really, reside here shop elsewhere.

Edit:  As a heads up to anyone buying this kind of thing, these people are actually very competitive. I bought this particular model from them as they, at the time, were offering the best european price. Apologies France. You see you can do it, if you try.

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Hopefully the original poster has got this sorted out now. Unfortunately it is something that will affect any water based paint. Don't be pigged headed and keep adding coats of paint in the hope that it will go away. It won't ! Stains need to be sealed. Shellac is what is normally recommended (nb the premixed variety does have a short shelf life) and here I would recommend applying it with a rag or cloth as it wrecks brushes very quickly. It only takes a few minutes to dry and then can be painted over. No need to treat the entire piece only where it has stained. One of the problems with furniture painting is knowing what you are painting. Some woods, mahogany in particular, can be problematic or it may have been treated with a furniture stain.It is always worth trying a test area first.

 In the absence of Shellac or even knotting solution you can try applying a couple of coats of wax to form a barrier but this is not always a guaranteed solution. Zinsser is a very popular alternative but is pricey.

In France shellac tends to be sold in flake or crystal form. It is called gomme (de) lacque or sometimes gomme shellac. You just need to add some alchool a brulé (methalated spirits) to make up as little or as much as you need. Most stockists have the Liberon version which comes in a multitude of colours. The clear or blonde version is best depending on what colour you are painting.

It is normally available from a droguerie or one of the brico stores. The latter normally haven't a clue what it is and will deny having it. Ignore this as it is normally in with coloured waxes, varnishes etc. You will also find it on amazon.fr. There are a variety of uk brands of knotting solution available there too.

Hope this helps...

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is normally available from either a  droguerie or brico store.(The

latter tends to hide it away and tell you they haven't got it.)  It is

called  gomme laque or  gomme shellac which comes in crystal form which

you then dissolve in Alchool a brulé. I have seen packets of crystals

under the Liberon name tucked away with coloured waxes in various brico

stores.Depending on what colour you are planning to paint it may be

prudent to search out the clear or blonde version. As a bit of advice

apply with a rag as it wrecks brushes very quickly. I have a feeling

there are assorted brands avalable from amazon.fr  - See more at:

https://www.angloinfo.com/poitou-charentes/discussions/topic/1309428#sthash.fO5X1UzG.dpuf
It

is normally available from either a  droguerie or brico store.(The

latter tends to hide it away and tell you they haven't got it.)  It is

called  gomme laque or  gomme shellac which comes in crystal form which

you then dissolve in Alchool a brulé. I have seen packets of crystals

under the Liberon name tucked away with coloured waxes in various brico

stores.Depending on what colour you are planning to paint it may be

prudent to search out the clear or blonde version. As a bit of advice

apply with a rag as it wrecks brushes very quickly. I have a feeling

there are assorted brands avalable from amazon.fr  - See more at:

https://www.angloinfo.com/poitou-charentes/discussions/topic/1309428#sthash.fO5X1UzG.dpuf
It

is normally available from either a  droguerie or brico store.(The

latter tends to hide it away and tell you they haven't got it.)  It is

called  gomme laque or  gomme shellac which comes in crystal form which

you then dissolve in Alchool a brulé. I have seen packets of crystals

under the Liberon name tucked away with coloured waxes in various brico

stores.Depending on what colour you are planning to paint it may be

prudent to search out the clear or blonde version. As a bit of advice

apply with a rag as it wrecks brushes very quickly. I have a feeling

there are assorted brands avalable from amazon.fr  - See more at:

https://www.angloinfo.com/poitou-charentes/discussions/topic/1309428#sthash.fO5X1UzG.dpuf
It

is normally available from either a  droguerie or brico store.(The

latter tends to hide it away and tell you they haven't got it.)  It is

called  gomme laque or  gomme shellac which comes in crystal form which

you then dissolve in Alchool a brulé. I have seen packets of crystals

under the Liberon name tucked away with coloured waxes in various brico

stores.Depending on what colour you are planning to paint it may be

prudent to search out the clear or blonde version. As a bit of advice

apply with a rag as it wrecks brushes very quickly. I have a feeling

there are assorted brands avalable from amazon.fr  - See more at:

https://www.angloinfo.com/poitou-charentes/discussions/topic/1309428#sthash.fO5X1UzG.dpuf
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