dave21478 Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Nobody is talking about race, the debate is over pet owners. Whilst you are technically required to rent to them, if you don't want to, then find a reason not to. If you want to bring race into it, I am 101% sure that there are certain gite owners who DO discriminate - they pick and choose which guests they want, and refuse the rest. In an ideal Utopia, this wouldnt happen, but here in the real world it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalpa Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 [quote user="pachapapa"]Do you mean I will not be taking Schrödinger's cat on a gite holiday this year?[/quote]I suspect you may be asked for a higher than normal damage deposit which may be retained in full by the owner - radioactive cleanup being expensive and likely to result in severe allergic reactions in subsequent guests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardengirl Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 [quote user="woolybanana"]Under this law, it would be illegal to ask questions about pets, as it would be illegal to ask questions about race?[/quote]Or sex! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 You offer sex as an extra? Surely that comes under another name!!!![;-)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnOther Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Just say that pets are welcome but warn prospective guests that you own a couple of big antisocial attack dogs and cannot accept responsibility for one of them eating their handbag dog for breakfast [Www] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossy67 Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 [quote user="cooperlola"]Would you have to give two male dogs a double kennel?[/quote]I am shocked at the thought of dogs in meaningful same sex relationships. Still, joking aside, it will happen sooner or later given the way our world is going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzer Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Whilst I appreciate "the law is the law" how many Brits will be aware of this new law. If you only advertise with a British company, I am not sure whether they will refuse your ad. For example the DPE report. I advertise on 2 sites. A French based site for winter lets who insists on a report for the ad, but a British company for the summer lets who has not asked for one. Providing your terms and conditions do not mention dogs, do you have a problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuBeginnings Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Just add in to your terms and conditions "We are happy to accept pets however there will be a €500 supplement to cover the costs of a deep clean"This type of law annoys the hell out of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 [quote user="NuBeginnings"] This type of law annoys the hell out of me.[/quote]Welcome to France.[:)]Seriously, though, I do feel that your approach would be problematic as it would be obvious from the t's & c's that pets weren't welcome and thus I reckon it would make it relatively easy to make a case against as the evidence is there for all to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cendrillon Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Polly wrote the following post at 06/02/2011 14:31: You've widened the debate here, Dave: if you're running a business such as a holiday let or & a B&B you cannot legally refuse to accept guests on the basis of their race or disability for a start!Actually you can say that your property is not suitable for people with mobility problems because of steps, locations of bedrooms, bathroom etc. where it would just not be practical to rent to someone who cannot manage the set-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 No ones considered the Lady and the Tramp scenario, what if the pedigree one runs off with the local stray ( thinks of Wooly for some reason) [:)] could the gite owner be liable for keeping a house of ill repute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 No, it would be proxenetism animalier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuBeginnings Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Seriously, though, I do feel that your approach would be problematic as it would be obvious from the t's & c's that pets weren't welcome and thus I reckon it would make it relatively easy to make a case against as the evidence is there for all to see. Whats problematic? The cost of a deep clean is not cheep also there is the cost of dry cleaning all of the linen specialists to clean any rugs mattresses etc. After all you do not want any other guests to have a problem with allergies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 [quote user="NuBeginnings"]Seriously, though, I do feel that your approach would be problematic as it would be obvious from the t's & c's that pets weren't welcome and thus I reckon it would make it relatively easy to make a case against as the evidence is there for all to see. Whats problematic? The cost of a deep clean is not cheep also there is the cost of dry cleaning all of the linen specialists to clean any rugs mattresses etc. After all you do not want any other guests to have a problem with allergies.[/quote]Just musing, that's all. I am just a humble potential customer after all so what do I know?There have always been plenty of places which allow pets - do they deep clean after every visit and charge the lot to the animal owning customers? My only feeling is that there are some animaly types who are quite radical and who might just be itching to find those who are trying to get around the new law with prohibitive charges etc. Most people who like to take their dogs on holiday, as I have already said, would go away and find somewhere where their animals were welcome and thus I'm not sure that the new regulations actually achieve much except to antagonise both parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KathyF Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Not a gite-owner, but we did have a holiday cottage next to our house in Wales some years ago. We advertised it as no pets, mainly because of the proximity of sheep and cattle in the fields around. We had people come back year after year because they had allergies to animal hair and were so glad to find a cottage guaranteed not to trigger those allergies. I hope for the sake of people like this that some gites manage to find ways to remain pet-free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 I thought you said pets were allowed [:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave&Olive Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 hi ok So Say I refuse 2 homosexual black German shepherds dogs who want to sleep together............. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolybanana Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 That could be four offences! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 [quote user="Dave and Olive"] hi ok So Say I refuse 2 homosexual black German shepherds dogs who want to sleep together............. Dave[/quote]Go directly to gaol. Do not collect £200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowland Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 We don't accept pets because my husband is allergic to pet hair - could we sue if he was ill after we had been made to accept a booking from someone who insisted on bringing a pet?From experience we know how difficult it is to get rid of pet hair - we have even had to ask friends not to visit with their pets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londoneye Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Oh I am sure there is going to be a way around this, as long as you explain the reasons.1. All dogs must be muzzled at all times when not in gite - in order to guarantee safety of all other parties on site2. No dogs allowed in the grounds, as they may defacate - which cannot be allowed because of the dangers of dog poo to small unsuspecting crawling and dog poo eating children. Even if dog poo is cleaned up some contaminate may remain, thus so sorry no dogs in the grounds.3. No dogs allowed into the sleeping areas of gites.4. Sadly we will be unable to provide mattresses in the event of a dog staying in the gite, but we do welcome dogs, so please feel free to bring your own.5. Cats are welcome anywhere in the grounds, although we do have to inform you that our own large rottie has a bit of a thing about cats (and not in a good way).No-one is going to take much notice of this law in my view and although the above is clearly in jest, I think there are sufficient ways around it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 [:)]In the days when we had dogs, we never took them on holiday. They went to kennels and that was that. But I do have a friend who has a particularly unpleasant little dog but which to her is the centre of the universe. When one goes anywhere with her, the dog comes along and if a restaurant won't let the little darling inside with her, everybody with her has to eat outside or go elsewhere, or is made to feel guilty while she reluctantly comes inside and then goes out every ten minutes or so to check on the thing. Now, I know for sure that if she ever gets wind of the fact that she is allowed to take this mangey beast to any gite in France then she will make fuss about it, and she will be the first to report anybody trying to get around this rule, because she considers it an afront that not everybody else on the planet thinks that her little darling is the best thing since sliced bread. Some animaly types can be quite fanatical about their furry companions and I honestly do think, Londoneye, that there will be some who do take notice of this law and who will do their best to make sure the spirit, as well as the letter, of it is enforced.Most of the time, I'm sure you're right, but I would never assume - especially where those who call themselves animal lovers are concerned. And I don't at all mean those who care about and look after the welfare of animals in general - just the over-zealous types! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzer Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Having today read an article in FPN, reminded me of the need to update our advertising for next year. The article mentions that we should ensure that pets are treated for fleas and worms ahead of their visit. Thought struck me-do we have to check the animal to the pet passport to ensure it is the same animal or do we take the customer's word? I don;t fancy buying a reader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Well as it's a legal ruling and the definition is pets, we are simply advertising No animals which is different to pets and will dissuade any one from bring their Alpaca on holiday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEO Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 No dogs,no smoking,no swimming shorts in the pool,and no poofs.Are we still talking about the tourist industry ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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