f1steveuk Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 I have an Espa Silen pool pump ESPA Silen Klixon Poland 3MP 1E16301It's no bigger than your little finger nail, but it's the third pump I have had, and it's always this little switch that goes. I've Googled it, and sent e mails to a couple of companies that list it, but none seem to what to even give me a price, let alone sell me some. Anyone got any ideas, it has to be cheaper than a new pump, again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 [quote user="f1steveuk"]I have an Espa Silen pool pump , a ESPA Silen 100MM SP12 230v 50Hz 10884 to be accurate, and in the electrical connection box on top, is the connector, a condenser and a thermal protection switch, with following written on it Klixon Poland 3MP 1E 16301 19F5T It's no bigger than your little finger nail, but it's the third pump I have had, and it's always this little switch that goes. I've Googled it, and sent e mails to a couple of companies that list it, but none seem to what to even give me a price, let alone sell me some. Anyone got any ideas, it has to be cheaper than a new pump, again! [/quote]What is going on with the forum or is it my pc? A lot of gobbledegook until I did a quote then it turned back into sense again.Back to your point, I have the details of the UK distributor for ESPA pumps if you need them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f1steveuk Posted October 14, 2009 Author Share Posted October 14, 2009 I can't say what happened to my post, but it doesn't look like what I typed in!I have contacted Espa in the UK, who sent me a lovely spare parts drawing, but it didn't include the motor or any of the electrics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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f1steveuk Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Just got five of the little devils direct from the manufacturer in China, 10 cents each, much much better than a new pump at 500Euros!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Keep that number handy Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f1steveuk Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Oh I will!!The part number is 3MP 1E 16301and I managed to track them down to a Dutch company, who offered to send me some "samples", they arrived from China. Five should out last the pump, rather than the other way around!!! No way of waterproofing them though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Coat them in neutral silicone, bury them on electrical potting compound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f1steveuk Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 I asked it I could do that, got a five page tech spec sheet and the instruction "NO!!", although I cannot think why! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomoss Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 [quote user="f1steveuk"]I asked it I could do that, got a five page tech spec sheet and the instruction "NO!!", although I cannot think why![/quote]Because it senses temperature. If you bury it in silicone etc it won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f1steveuk Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 It is, inside a very basic bi-mental switch, which has to be within a certain distance of the motor to ensure that it can switch the motor off, if it overheats, I didn't think silicon would insulate against heat to that extent, but as I say, as I have five now, I should be ok anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Because they wont be able to dissipate the thermal energy and will trip at a much lower pump loading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 In that case you'll just have to get it a little raincoat [:D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonzjob Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 If this switch is where I think it should be, inside the motor housing, then surely there should not be any water and if there is then the waterproofing of the switch is going to be the last of your worries?If you do want it waterproofed then mount it and spray it with WD40? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f1steveuk Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 Mine lives in a plastic junction box, on top of the motor, where the wires come in to be connected to the feed. This is set underground, right next to the pool, the lid being part of the decking, so when people get out, or dive in , the water can go through it to the workings below. I queried this with the local installer (it was in when we brought, so not the company that installed the pool), and they said it was fine/normal, although if it REALLY rains, and the pool over flows, guess where it goes!!!?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicandJo Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Coat it with some of this stuff http://www.electrolube.com/docs/conformalmain.asp?id=73 and you should be ok.No idea where you can get it from - RS maybe? We used to use it in the mob on aircraft circuitry to protect from the elements without taking away any functionality from the items protected..........we also used it on our boots - gives a mirror 'bulled' shine with minimum effort..........[B] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicandJo Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 http://uk.rs-online.com/web/search/searchBrowseAction.html?method=getProduct&R=4090956&cm_vc=av_uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f1steveuk Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 Many thanks for that, there's an RS not far away! I was thinking of Adsil, but that evaporates with time, so I'll give this a go, though I may not try it on my boots, they're suede! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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