Is your Tap Water poisonous!

[Cendrillon]

Théière wrote the following post at 18/05/2010 9:27:

Glad you said it

Fortunately for Chancer our bodies aren't made of copper or brass so

firing up shouldn't be a problem although the odd gall/kidney stone

maybe

and therein lies the problem, not so funny when it happens to you.[+o(]

[Clarkkent]

[quote user="Christine Animal"]

Justement, the "source" maybe.  Can source/spring water be contaminated?

 

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Fecal matter may percolate through the soil from cattle and sheep into spring water, as may pesticides. There may be traces of heavy metals from rock formations. Small quantities of bacteria may multiply while the water is is on supermarket shelves or in the boot of a car.

...And so on.

I remember - some years ago - a Channel 4 programme about bottled water being compared with tap water in which - in terms of safety - bottled water came a poor second. One analyst even went to far as to say that parents who fed their children bottled water should be declared unfit to be parents! (Possibly a little extreme.)

[andyh4]

[quote user="Chancer"]

Coming soon the follow up exposé on the contamination of bottled water..............

I am happier to drink my water that arrives through a lead pipe than surrounded by plasticisers.

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PET bottles contain no plasticisers

[andyh4]

[quote user="Clarkkent"][quote user="Christine Animal"]

Justement, the "source" maybe.  Can source/spring water be contaminated?

 

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Fecal matter may percolate through the soil from cattle and sheep into spring water, as may pesticides. There may be traces of heavy metals from rock formations. Small quantities of bacteria may multiply while the water is is on supermarket shelves or in the boot of a car.

...And so on.

I remember - some years ago - a Channel 4 programme about bottled water being compared with tap water in which - in terms of safety - bottled water came a poor second. One analyst even went to far as to say that parents who fed their children bottled water should be declared unfit to be parents! (Possibly a little extreme.)

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Not to mention that well known brand of eau de source that was found to contain naturally occuring benzene!!

 

[PeterG]

Why does bottled water, that.............."Has been filtered through volcanic rock for millions of years"...............have a sell by date on it?

[Chancer]

Very good question [:D]

[Swissie]

I have every sympathy for anybody who has kidney stones, as they are apparently excruciatingly painful. However, having done a bit of research (on the Net) and asking around  (I am definitely NO expert) - it seems that water from limestone areas (like the Jura where I live) is not necessarily a problem with kidney stones, and certainly no more than most mineral bottled waters. Should I ever suffer from this condition (and I sincerely hope I never do) - I would research this VERY carefully, and make sure that if I chose bottled water as an alternative - I got detailed info on it's 'ingredients', the type of plastic the bottle is made of, and their likely effect. I wonder what the Doctor/specialist would say/advise.

[Âme]

Several years ago an eye specialist advised me never to drink water from plastic bottles. Something in the plastic migrates into the water, eventually sticking to the retina. I don't know whether this advice is current, as certain types of plastic are no longer used with food & drink.

[pachapapa]

[quote user="Swissie"]I have every sympathy for anybody who has kidney stones, as they are apparently excruciatingly painful. However, having done a bit of research (on the Net) and asking around  (I am definitely NO expert) - it seems that water from limestone areas (like the Jura where I live) is not necessarily a problem with kidney stones, and certainly no more than most mineral bottled waters. Should I ever suffer from this condition (and I sincerely hope I never do) - I would research this VERY carefully, and make sure that if I chose bottled water as an alternative - I got detailed info on it's 'ingredients', the type of plastic the bottle is made of, and their likely effect. I wonder what the Doctor/specialist would say/advise.


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Common in Argentina...red meat....uric acid....cálculos renales.

Bougre[:D] all to do with hard water!

[Cendrillon]

I wonder what the Doctor/specialist would say/advise.

A. For safety use a Britta type water filter jug.

If there's any chance of avoiding more cálculos

renales please advise.

[velcorin]

PET bottles don't leach or react with aquaous contents. That's what they were developed to do, unlike the older "plastic" bottles.

Perrier's Benzene problem in 1990 is a standard Marketing Course Case Study on how to destroy a brand. It was used as anti-bacterial agent, to increase the shelflife of the product, and it's cheap. They didn't declare it on the bottles, and Benzene is highly carcenagentic. Then when caught, the HO gave umpteen different excuses, and refused to withdraw the product. We now make a lot of money providing the same benefits to the soft drinks/wine/beer industries with a 100% harmless product called Velcorin (Google it, if you want proof).

French water quality has been an issue for decades, due to the total lack of investment by the provider companies, and the Govn, doing it's normally head up it's backside, when their Grande Ecole mates in Big Business need a good kicking. And, now kidney stones have been mentioned, I suddenly realised just how many French people I know have had this problem. I never knew anyone who'd had this problem in other countries in which I'd lived. Not very scientific, but maybe the Sante should ask some questions.

[pachapapa]

[quote user="Cendrillon"]I wonder what the Doctor/specialist would say/advise.

A. For safety use a Britta type water filter jug.




If there's any chance of avoiding more cálculos renales please advise.
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In Argentina in a hospital serving community of 6000 persons, a fairly common complaint, usually treated with an ultrasonic sonde.

Ondas de Choque o Ultrasonido. Su médico puede utilizar un dispositivo para enviar ondas de choque directamente al cálculo renal. Las ondas de choque rompen un cálculo grande en pequeños cálculos que serán eliminados a través del sistema urinario con la orina.

There you are a couple of pints of beer and problem resolved.[:)]

[Christine Animal]

We've had four dogs with them and they all had to be operated on (very large stones).

 

[Judith]

Kidney stones ARE extremely painfully, as I can attest - hubby has had then twice and the agonies he went through - as you say, now normally "blasted" away sonically.  Reason - he didn't drink enough - this in the UK, he only ever drinks tap water (unless we are travelling and have none with us).  Fortunately he hasn't had them for years.

Seeing the small amount of water most of my French friends drink (tap or other) certainly with meals,  I would think they are more likely to suffer from dehydration than poisonous water!!!!

[Cendrillon]

Judith wrote the following post at 18/05/2010 14:38:

"Kidney stones ARE extremely painfully, as I can attest - hubby has had

then twice and the agonies he went through - as you say, now normally

"blasted" away sonically.  Reason - he didn't drink enough - this in the

UK, he only ever drinks tap water (unless we are travelling and have

none with us).  Fortunately he hasn't had them for years.

Seeing

the small amount of water most of my French friends drink (tap or other)

certainly with meals,  I would think they are more likely to suffer

from dehydration than poisonous water!!!!"

Yes Judith they can often be " blasted sonically" these days but this method is not always suitable and goodness me these stones can unfortunately cause some lasting damage.

I agree about the dehydration problems, I went to dinner the other night at the home of English friends, only wine was served with the meal!  I had to ask for water and no one else joined me for that tipple, unbelievable. Message to one and all, drink more water, tap or otherwise!

[mint]

Yes, Cinders, I heard you loud and clear![:D]

I've been nagging OH to drink more water especially now the weather's turned a bit warmer and he's been working in the garden.

Now, since he's seen this report, he wants to know whether I am trying to poison him![:-))]

[Judith]

[quote user="Cendrillon"]

Yes Judith they can often be " blasted sonically" these days but this method is not always suitable and goodness me these stones can unfortunately cause some lasting damage. OK, but much better than the methods they first tried on hubby - which were event more painful than the stone!!

I agree about the dehydration problems, I went to dinner the other night at the home of English friends, only wine was served with the meal!  I had to ask for water and no one else joined me for that tipple, unbelievable. Message to one and all, drink more water, tap or otherwise!

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A little story to prove the point - we went out for a celebratory lunch (some years ago, still in London), and after a rather heavy meal and a only 1 but very (very)  large glass of wine, I moved to go to the loo and promptly keeled over.  No, I was not drunk, but dehydrated.  There was also in the restaurant an Iranian doctor who came to my aid.  Turned out I was dehydrated.  After he'd stuffed me with salt, sugar and water, I began to feel better, but still weak so had a taxi home rather than walk the 15 mins we would usually have done, and went straight to bed, and stayed there all evening.  His name was Batmanjeledg (or similar) and he wrote about what the lack of water does "Your body's many cries for water".  We bought it, and suddenly many of the little things that were not quite right were suddenly made clear.  I drank and drank after that, and felt so much better.

He said, the type of water didn't matter - it was the lack of it that caused problems.  He gave loads of examples - and I have certainly cured stomach ache by drinking water.  And when you feel hungry, he recommends drinking water first, often hunger pains are nothing more than thirst pains which can be easily confused.  All very, very interesting indeed.

Strangely, now, here in France, I keep forgetting to drink.  When working I kept a litre and half bottle by the desk and got through it during the day, also drinking a similar amount when I was at home each day, where the bottle was in the kitchen and easily accessible as I passed through.    New year's resolution - obviously needed!

Can't give the isbn etc, as not sure where the book is at the mo, as we are packing, but I can recommend it - a very simple thing that can "cure" many an evil in today's modern world!

[Cendrillon]

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[Cendrillon]

[quote user="sweet 17"]

Yes, Cinders, I heard you loud and clear![:D]

I've been nagging OH to drink more water especially now the weather's turned a bit warmer and he's been working in the garden.

Now, since he's seen this report, he wants to know whether I am trying to poison him![:-))]

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LOL [:)] do tell him that water is also good for the joints and the brain, especially at his age.[8-|]

[Swissie]

Remember the worst school ski trip ever - we were in Montgenèvre, on the Italian border - brilliant snow and very hot sunshine. So we explained to the kids that they had to drink loads of water because of altitude and exercise. We the teachers led by example - apart from my OH who stuck to beer, and another teacher who stuck to Coca-cola.

by the third day 80% of the kids had the worst possible stomach upset, including all but the 2 above teachers. A ski instructor told me she would lose her job if it was ever known she'd told us - but that the new water reservoir/pumping station was polluted, and that nobody locally drank tap water. It was kept quiet to avoid loss from tourism!!

On hols wit the family visiting my parents in the Jura - and walking one of our gorgeous Dales, I told the kids they could drink from a small stream coming down the mountain, as the water was so pure. We all had a good drink - and 5 mins later upstream found a decomposing chamois in the stream. None of us were ill - but they don't trust me with water anymore.

[pachapapa]

Last nights documentary has now been put up on DailyMotion for anyone who wishes to watch it or watch it again.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xdcgu1_du-poison-dans-l-eau-du-robinet-1-6_news

[pachapapa]

If one wishes the 6 installments of approximately 15 minutes each are available on Jane Burgermeister' page at..

http://www.dailymotion.com/JaneBurgermeister

[Christine Animal]

Thank you Pachapapa !  [:)]

 

[5-element]

Thank you from me too - I had started watching it but got disrupted...

[Salty Sam]

[quote user="Swissie"]Remember the worst school ski trip ever - we were in Montgenèvre, on the Italian border - brilliant snow and very hot sunshine. So we explained to the kids that they had to drink loads of water because of altitude and exercise. We the teachers led by example - apart from my OH who stuck to beer, and another teacher who stuck to Coca-cola.
by the third day 80% of the kids had the worst possible stomach upset, including all but the 2 above teachers. A ski instructor told me she would lose her job if it was ever known she'd told us - but that the new water reservoir/pumping station was polluted, and that nobody locally drank tap water. It was kept quiet to avoid loss from tourism!!

On hols wit the family visiting my parents in the Jura - and walking one of our gorgeous Dales, I told the kids they could drink from a small stream coming down the mountain, as the water was so pure. We all had a good drink - and 5 mins later upstream found a decomposing chamois in the stream. None of us were ill - but they don't trust me with water anymore.
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Might want to think twice about drinking that crystal clear mountain spring water these days;

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