Mr Coeur de Lion Posted September 27, 2011 Author Share Posted September 27, 2011 The contact person on my site is the English agent I have listed the house with. He's been great, even going round and trying to get access. My tenant has been polite, and still occasionally sends me polite emails, but never responds to my questions.I am friends with his ex girlfriend, I may ask her to do some digging for me, find out what he is playing at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judie Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 We had similar trouble, though in the UK, when we were selling our house while we were living in France. The selling agents had keys to the front door, but the letting agent had failed to give them a copy of the porch door key, so the tenants would lock that, thus stopping any visits. We had to get VERY firm with the letting agent before visits could commence. Luckily, the tenants moved out just as we got a buyer, and things proceded swiftly after that.Difficult situation for you at such a distance. Good luck with sorting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepenofmyaunt Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Our tenancy agreement expressly states that the locataires must provide access for at least 2 hours per working day for viewings during the last 2 months of the tenancy. What does yours say?Mind you, it also said the tenants should pay their rent - which they haven't for 5 months - and leave the house in the same state they found it - they left it uninhabitable. It also says they are responsible for the costs of recovering unpaid rent - nope, can't enforce that one either according to our avocat - From where I'm standing it seems that whatever is written down and agreed is not even worth the paper it's written on and absolutely nothing can be enforced without the consent of a juge - megabucksDon't be tempted to pay him a visit or send anyone else. It will only reflect badly on you. Good lucki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickP Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 [quote user="thepenofmyaunt"]Our tenancy agreement expressly states that the locataires must provide access for at least 2 hours per working day for viewings during the last 2 months of the tenancy. What does yours say? Mind you, it also said the tenants should pay their rent - which they haven't for 5 months - and leave the house in the same state they found it - they left it uninhabitable. It also says they are responsible for the costs of recovering unpaid rent - nope, can't enforce that one either according to our avocat - From where I'm standing it seems that whatever is written down and agreed is not even worth the paper it's written on and absolutely nothing can be enforced without the consent of a juge - megabucks Don't be tempted to pay him a visit or send anyone else. It will only reflect badly on you. Good lucki[/quote] So what you are saying is that you can't do anything at all? Sorry Auntie if someone was ripping me off I would ignore your advice out of hand. Let people take liberty's and they will walk all over you. It looks to me as though Richards tenant is messing him around as he knows that Richard is a long way away, and of course as Idun said earlier; winter is approaching and the "tenant" sees a way of not paying any rent. Would be interesting to know whether the "tenant" has paid his rent up to now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted October 14, 2011 Author Share Posted October 14, 2011 Update:He has been still paying me rent and he is up to date on it.He informs me he hopes to be out by the end of the month but is still looking for somewhere.I have a very interested viewer driving up from Portugal next Wednesday to look at the house and he is allowing access.So hopefully, all being well... fingers crossed all round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Good to hear...often present fears are only horrible imaginings to garble Shakespeare.Good luck with the sale it looks a really nice place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted October 14, 2011 Author Share Posted October 14, 2011 Thanks, I just hope the potential buyers realise it's currently a rental and so probably doesn't look as good as it does in the pics. But the pics show there is potential there and it wouldn't take a lot of work to bring it back up to scratch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchie Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Richard,I know the law about this, because in the past I had to call ADIL for the same reasons.A tenant HAS TO ( that s the law) let people, ( whether potential buyers or agents ) visit the house, as long as he is informed of this at least two days before the visit .You can sell a house while there's a tenant in it, but the new owner will not be able to live in it until the lease is over. ( is your lease 3 years, as in most cases??) In case of a sale, you have to send a lettre recommandée to your tenant, informing him about the sale, 6 months before the end of the lease. This protects the tenant, who will then have 6 months to leave the place, look for a new place to rent. In the case of a sale in which the new owner has no intention to live in the house, then the bail can be renewed. Thus, the tenant will just change owner.So, you see, you can OBLIGE him to give access to the house if a vistor ( potential buyer) shows up. That's the law.No more than a certain number of visits a day. ( think it s 2, but I can check). One day out of two at the week ends. . ( same thing .)Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted October 15, 2011 Author Share Posted October 15, 2011 Thanks for that Frenchie, it seems he is finally playing ball now, but I will keep that in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idun Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Mr Lion Heart, I gave you the link to ANIL, which would link you to ADIL, the 'N' being Nationale and the 'D' being departmental. They are very good, maybe you should contact them anyway. November is almost upon us and you are simply relying on old friendship and good will. What can I say, good luck and I hope that it all works out well and you sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchie Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 [quote user="idun"]They are very good, maybe you should contact them anyway. November is almost upon us and you are simply relying on old friendship and good will. [/quote]Meaning ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachapapa Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 [quote user="Frenchie"][quote user="idun"] They are very good, maybe you should contact them anyway. November is almost upon us and you are simply relying on old friendship and good will. [/quote]Meaning ?[/quote]It just takes a grain of stardust to change a brit tenant into a brit squatter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchie Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 As long as that tenant is paying the rent , he is not a squatter.I guess he has a lease, very probably a 3 year one.He has to let the potential buyers visit the house if he is given a two day notice (minimum ), but as long as he is paying, he is entitled to stay in that house until the end of the lease, whether sold or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chancer Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 [quote user="Frenchie"]Meaning ?[/quote]Trève hivernale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchie Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 La trève hivernale doesn't apply to your tenant.As long as he is paying the rent, he is entitled to stay til the end of the lease.... You can't kick him out if he pays the rent, whether it's july or december....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted October 15, 2011 Author Share Posted October 15, 2011 I think what Idun and Chancer are pertaining to is that he's waiting out til November and will stay in the house rent free until spring. They're looking at worst case and to be honest I have had fears along those lines too.Despite my difficulties with him, I think he is on the level, he is just a very poor communicator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchie Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Well, you can only wait and see, but don't give up on that visit in october, he can't refuse if you tell him in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted October 15, 2011 Author Share Posted October 15, 2011 He's allowing access. Think I said that on the previous page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchie Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Sorry, didn't see that. So, I guess you have no more problems for the moment .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted October 15, 2011 Author Share Posted October 15, 2011 Yep, all ok at present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogs Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 We've given 3 months notice to leave our rented property but, should our new house not be ready for us to move into, am I understanding this correct that legally the owner cannot make us leave on that date (should be 24 Dec), as we asked if we could stay on month by month if necessary.We pay the rent on time and the agents have requested that during the next 3 months the house and garden is clean and tidy (we don't live in a pig sty, I like to think we have a hygienically clean abode) in case they want to show new prospective tenants around. We assumed that it has to be left in the condition we found it on the day we move out, so was a bit put out by this request.We have areas of mould where there is damp, is this something we should repair or the landlord? We have reported it but nothing has been done.Another question - if we are ready to move out in 2 months rather than 3 do we still have to pay for 3 months, or just 2?Our contract is for a year - Nov to Nov but giving 3 months means we are here a month longer than the year.Sorry to hijack your thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Coeur de Lion Posted October 21, 2011 Author Share Posted October 21, 2011 Had the inspection, but no go, the woman didn't like it.So we continue on, but they would have bought at the asking price which is at least some comfort.Have been told the house is in good condition, although looks lived in (as it would with a tenant), so my fears of a destroyed house have been allayed.Hope I get a buyer soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanH Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 At least that...Mine was used as a workshop with tools and wood stacked everywhere in the living-room/kitchen , which did nothing to advertise its charms..Good luck (again) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suein56 Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Mogs have sent you a pm.Sue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchie Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Good luck Richard, it s not easy to sell a place in which the buyers will not be able to live immediately ( not til the end of the tenant's lease )...anyway, investors exist. Keep looking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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