Mr Coeur de Lion Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 Well, I've cancelled iportal and I'll try onspeed when my subscription with iportal runs out.Not interested in the speed just access to iplayer. It's half the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 [quote user="AnOther"]To be honest it's hard to see any real difference and I'm unconvinced of their claims of quantum speed improvements. A lot depends on the content of the web pages you visit, graphics are already heavily compressed so you'll gain nothing by Onspeed's servers trying to compress them again. Similarly speeds whilst downloading files in compressed .zip or .rar format will show little or no difference.[/quote]It all depends on your connection speed. If you have 2 meg or greater you will see no difference whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hautepy Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Stella's claim in this, and another thread ref. BBC iplayer, that they use noirvpn for access, is untrue. If you open an account with them you then discover that they don't have a UK server, which prevents you from accessing iplayer -despite their site claiming to unblock ALL websites and services. I'm trying for a refund but not holding out much hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stella Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 [quote user="Quillan"]I am led to believe that the company you mention does not have a vpn server in the UK and therefore does not work with IPlayer. What the site is designed to do is hide your IP address for things like downloading music and video's. If you pay up and use this site to try and watch UK TV over the internet you will be disappointed. I am also led to believe that it is very difficult, if not impossible, to get a refund once you have found this out. Other than that, if you read the website front page it does exactly what it say's.[/quote]Did I say that noirvpn has a server in the UK that gives a IP from the UK? Sorry, but why pick on me? Not really part of the first post here either, so we go off topic. However, the use of a vpn account offers much more security verus a proxy account, if you care to understand the difference. A proxy can be traced, while a vpn can't be traced.If you want to watch UK TV, then you need a proper sat box, one which will pull in signals from uncle Rup. This is not what vpn does, but is what MY sat box does.Refund, who does that anyway these days. I read the rules, its clear so I asked all the questions first , B4 I joined. Ask first, then pay for what you get, seems to be the general rule of life.The site does what it says on the wrapper, offer protection! No issue from my side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 The why post your comments in a thread about getting the BBC and ITV on the Internet in France when clearly, by your own admission, nothing to do with it. Are you sure you don't work for them? [;-)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachapapa Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 [quote user="stella"][quote user="Quillan"]I am led to believe that the company you mention does not have a vpn server in the UK and therefore does not work with IPlayer. What the site is designed to do is hide your IP address for things like downloading music and video's. If you pay up and use this site to try and watch UK TV over the internet you will be disappointed. I am also led to believe that it is very difficult, if not impossible, to get a refund once you have found this out. Other than that, if you read the website front page it does exactly what it say's.[/quote]Did I say that noirvpn has a server in the UK that gives a IP from the UK? Sorry, but why pick on me? Not really part of the first post here either, so we go off topic. However, the use of a vpn account offers much more security verus a proxy account, if you care to understand the difference. A proxy can be traced, while a vpn can't be traced.If you want to watch UK TV, then you need a proper sat box, one which will pull in signals from uncle Rup. This is not what vpn does, but is what MY sat box does.Refund, who does that anyway these days. I read the rules, its clear so I asked all the questions first , B4 I joined. Ask first, then pay for what you get, seems to be the general rule of life.The site does what it says on the wrapper, offer protection! No issue from my side.[/quote]Why not just use a free VPN by Comodo?Easy-VPN!http://easy-vpn.comodo.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stella Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 [quote user="Quillan"]The why post your comments in a thread about getting the BBC and ITV on the Internet in France when clearly, by your own admission, nothing to do with it. Are you sure you don't work for them? [;-)][/quote]Sorry Quillan, I was just putting out info...since other posters before me were talking about vpn. Since I use a vpn account, I though it might clear up some questions here, but the poster, with 3 posts to his name clearly has an issue here....don't know what I said to get that poster going. I'm just a simple user. So as mentioned, certain sat boxs will clear many channels including the ones mentioned already. I can about this for hours, but I suspect that I'll get beaten up if I do.I guess next time, I'll keep quite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 If your talking about Spiderbox and 'gifts' (sharing somebodies subscription card for free or buying access on Ebay and the possibility of also turning it in to a media server to share your card) I think some people know already what you are talking about. However as you have now understood that to watch 'catchup TV' or just TV from the 'prime' UK none subscription stations over the Internet you have to be in the UK for copyright reasons and your validity is determined by the IP address you use as this also indicates the country you are in. The people outside the UK who do want 'I Player' (this is the name for the BBC version enabling you to watch BBC programs, ITV have a similar system) use a VPN in the UK solely to get access to these facilities. As for the rest of UK TV we can get hold of what is called a 'Sky' box either with or without a card that uses satellite which fortunately covers all of France and some of Spain. Some of us have HDD recorders or satellite receivers in our PC's all of which allow us to record programs we may normally miss. Hope that helps you understand better why they are asking about VPN's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stella Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 ok, its clear, merci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 I've asked this elsewhere but without response because of the back and forth about who's in this for profit and who isn't (sorry, Stella, not your fault!) but don't yet have an answer. Do these systems being discussed and recommended disguise your IP address altogether or do they fool the recipient into thinking they are in the UK? I would like to know as I have the same problem trying to download the Daily Show from the US and wondered if the £25 jobs would solve this at the same time or if I do in fact need a poxy server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 [quote user="cooperlola"]I've asked this elsewhere but without response because of the back and forth about who's in this for profit and who isn't (sorry, Stella, not your fault!) but don't yet have an answer. Do these systems being discussed and recommended disguise your IP address altogether or do they fool the recipient into thinking they are in the UK? I would like to know as I have the same problem trying to download the Daily Show from the US and wondered if the £25 jobs would solve this at the same time or if I do in fact need a poxy server.[/quote]If the issue is because of copyright then you may not be able to view it outside of the US. Just like with the UK you need to be in the country in which the program is broadcast. To get round this you can access a VPN (Virtual Private Network) that is located in the country. Loosely speaking you connect to the VPN which has a US or UK address which takes the data and pass's it to you so as far as the BBC (for instance) is concerned you are actually in the UK. Of course if your are 'in the UK' then you can't be 'in the US' and if there is copyright on a program in the US that restricts it to be only viewed in the US then you won't be able to see it. You could of course use a US VPN but then its all that mucking around in changing from one to the other depending on what you want to see.As to copyright on the 'Daily Show' all I can say is I am not using a VPN (so they know I am in France) and am currently watching the following program which works fine.http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-november-4-2010/the-mourning-afterIf you have a problem a description of the problem may help resolve the issues.Hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnOther Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 [quote user="cooperlola"]if I do in fact need a poxy server.[/quote]Like it coops [;-)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 [quote user="Quillan"] [quote user="cooperlola"]I've asked this elsewhere but without response because of the back and forth about who's in this for profit and who isn't (sorry, Stella, not your fault!) but don't yet have an answer. Do these systems being discussed and recommended disguise your IP address altogether or do they fool the recipient into thinking they are in the UK? I would like to know as I have the same problem trying to download the Daily Show from the US and wondered if the £25 jobs would solve this at the same time or if I do in fact need a poxy server.[/quote]If the issue is because of copyright then you may not be able to view it outside of the US. Just like with the UK you need to be in the country in which the program is broadcast. To get round this you can access a VPN (Virtual Private Network) that is located in the country. Loosely speaking you connect to the VPN which has a US or UK address which takes the data and pass's it to you so as far as the BBC (for instance) is concerned you are actually in the UK. Of course if your are 'in the UK' then you can't be 'in the US' and if there is copyright on a program in the US that restricts it to be only viewed in the US then you won't be able to see it. You could of course use a US VPN but then its all that mucking around in changing from one to the other depending on what you want to see.As to copyright on the 'Daily Show' all I can say is I am not using a VPN (so they know I am in France) and am currently watching the following program which works fine.http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-november-4-2010/the-mourning-afterIf you have a problem a description of the problem may help resolve the issues.Hope that helps.[/quote]If you click on the "Watch full Episode" bit underneath, what do you get? I get a "Sorry, not allowed," message. The bleeped, truncated version of the programme I watch and record every day from More4 - it's the full-blooded, uncut one which I'd like to watch if possible.Thanks, btw, Quillan. In effect I'd need an VPN for each one then - the US and the UK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillan Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Hi Coops did as you suggested and it does not work so it's not you. Well actually it is you, and me, we are in France. So to watch it you will need to register with a VPN in the US. But that one won't let you watch UK stuff so you will have to register with two and flip the settings depending which one you want to watch.If it helps there are some full episodes on YouTube, you can try a search on the following "the daily show with jon stewart full episodes 2010". Sod's law says the one you want won't be there of course. [:(] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 [quote user="Quillan"] So to watch it you will need to register with a VPN in the US. But that one won't let you watch UK stuff so you will have to register with two and flip the settings depending which one you want to watch.[/quote]My instinct with all these poxy (just for you, me old chimney brush - I have a friend who refers to poplar trees as populars, but she genuinely thought this was what they are called, it was not a joke, unlike mine) servers and VPNs is to use create a Virtual PC for each and use it exclusively for viewing but I'm only just getting used to how these function so does anybody think this would work, or would it slow the thing down too much doing it that way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachapapa Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 I think the Anchor Free Hotspot Shield gives a USA I.P., similar to the Expat Shield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 [quote user="pachapapa"]I think the Anchor Free Hotspot Shield gives a USA I.P., similar to the Expat Shield. [/quote]Thanks, I will have a look at that.[:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachapapa Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Just clicked my Expat Shield Launch and it activates with assignment of the UK I.P. but then opens a Hot Shield Page with an option to enter Hot Shield; when I close this it enters the normal Expat Shield Home Page. Confused me a bit; I am still not 100% sure about the service but it certainly works. Earlier with the VPN active I tried a ping test, it was not very happy and eventually had to uninstall the programme; it has it's own uninstall option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogs Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Which VPN do you use Stella, sorry if you've said, its late and I am getting cyber tired.Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stella Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 I use a service from: noirvpn dot comThey have 4 servers, usa, canada, france and germany...all for 5 euro a month.It works for me. Tell which show you want (link etc) and I test it for you with my usa account to see if it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogs Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 I misunderstood, its only really UK programmes that I would like to get. Thanks for your reply though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tj Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 Tor network, with it running in the background, I just select enable proxy from browser menu just as a program is loading, UK tv, american tv, any tv anywhere.and free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogs Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 thank you tj, I am trying the tvanywhere and it seems to be working, great now I can watch sky documentaries! Many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph1 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 I want to watch ITV and BBC on my computer and have been reading this thread.I have just looked on 'tvanywhere' and it says presubscribe now. I thought it was free, can anyone help?Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperlola Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 I don't know, Steph, but EXPATSHIELD certainly is free. I haven't got it to work myself buy many others on here have.[:)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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