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[quote user="Bugbear"][quote user="LanguedocGal2"]

 I just hate the idea of people moving here, hearing all that 'theme park' nonsense about France all the time because it's false.

 We all have our positions and are entitled to them as much as the 'everything is perfect' mob.

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A serious question, well two actually..

Where does the 'theme park' reference you refer to actually come from ?

Who has actually said that 'everything is perfect' ? I can find no statement to that effect on this thread.

Thank you.

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Bugbear, my post was clearly not referring just to this thread as there are enough of us on here with different views. Read my post, perhaps. Re theme park, please use a little imagination.  You're welcome!

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[quote user="Miki"]I am so truly honoured SB but am I worthy? [/quote]

Miki, you are eternally and indelibly (and perhaps even tautologically?) etched in (on?) my mind in the "Meatball" box.

I know we've never met, but when I see meatballs, you are there.  In a very real sense.  [:)]

 

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[quote user="Jon"]  It is a frequent truth that those describing themselves as "realists" are as far removed from the world as those that they decry. .

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Do really think, Jon, that my being a French national born in France, of French parents, and having been through the French educational system and having worked in France, has no bearing on my perception of....France?

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I'm sure it has a great deal of bearing on your view of this fine nation, just as my being born English in England has a bearing on my thoughts and opinions on that (also fine) nation. My point was that relentless negativity is just as damaging as the "theme park" view. Neither give a balanced view and both are completely useless to anyone evaluating the advisability of a move here. The theme park view (LG - I like the turn of phrase) is risible and I have no truck with it, but equally the way that positive comments posted on this board are all so often jumped on from a great height is deeply, deeply irritating.

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[quote user="Jon"]That's what I think.

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maybe u fink rong, jon.

rongjons, isn't that what Chinese people wear in the cold?

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Yes it is, fur lined kidney shaped trousers, dooze make em' walk like jonnrayne.

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WHY DO YOU STAY IN FRANCE?

Because its my home, I've lived here as a married person longer than I did in the UK and my children know nothing else as they were young when we left. There is plenty to moan about here -high cotisations,never having any spare money,tons of paperwork and loads more BUT at the end of the day,it was our choice,no one made us come here and we could never ever go back to the UK either to afford to buy a home there or wish to live in what has become to me, a very dangerous place now in many ways. I think that those who move here permanently, do not integrate except with other brits and do not let go of their previous life but keep returning every few months are those who will find it hardest to deal with living in la Belle France.

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[quote user="Miki"]I am so truly honoured SB but am I worthy? [/quote]

Miki, you are eternally and indelibly (and perhaps even tautologically?) etched in (on?) my mind in the "Meatball" box.

I know we've never met, but when I see meatballs, you are there.  In a very real sense.  [:)][/quote]

You are too kind and when I find out what tautologically means I hope to be even more pleased

I hope to be even more pleased, I said I hope to be even more pleased, did I sayI hope to be even more pleased

Phew wot come over me, it must be me the new sauce..............Is it me old Sid James look that makes you think of screwed up balls pertetrerr ?

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Jon wrote: but equally the way that positive comments posted on this board are all so often jumped on from a great height is deeply, deeply irritating.

I consider this to be more worrying than irritating especially when uprooting children is concerned.  It really is a huge risk and I think people considering this should be shown the bare facts.

Do you not think between the "Happy Clappers" and "TWoE" an honest appraisal can be gleaned?  'Cos I do!

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Could you perhaps, Jon, be more explicit about what you see as "relentless negativity"? Can you spell it out, give examples? Some observations such as "there is a lot of dog poo in town" or "3 cars got burnt down my road this week" or "an increasing number of people in employment now are homeless and live in their cars" - is that relentless negativity?

And perhaps you could do the same with "positive comments"?

I'll get you started here, as I am feeling full of positivity today.

When someone enters a waiting room in France, they usually say "Bonjour" to everyone. Positive, life-enhancing.

If you feel really unwell and wonder what might be wrong with you, go to the GP, and he/she will immediately send you to the lab , for a battery of tests. And on to a specialist, without further ado. Positive.

As for the weather and the wonderful Midi light? Now I do feel waxing lyrical about that (and that's why I don't live in Britanny or Limousin).

I can go on, this is just a small sample.I can do both, and frequently do. That's what I mean by richness of life.

And I enjoy pot noodles too.

 

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[quote user="Jon"][quote user="5-element"]

[quote user="Jon"]  It is a frequent truth that those describing themselves as "realists" are as far removed from the world as those that they decry. .

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Do really think, Jon, that my being a French national born in France, of French parents, and having been through the French educational system and having worked in France, has no bearing on my perception of....France?

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I'm sure it has a great deal of bearing on your view of this fine nation, just as my being born English in England has a bearing on my thoughts and opinions on that (also fine) nation. My point was that relentless negativity is just as damaging as the "theme park" view. Neither give a balanced view and both are completely useless to anyone evaluating the advisability of a move here. The theme park view (LG - I like the turn of phrase) is risible and I have no truck with it, but equally the way that positive comments posted on this board are all so often jumped on from a great height is deeply, deeply irritating.
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Theme park credit goes to 5-E, me thinks.

'Positive comments' are one thing but as you know, these are usually issued as generalities for the entire country by so many and as the rest of us do not recognise the conditions described for example - France is cheap - it's difficult not to challenge them. I repeat, I don't think we are negative.

Also, whatever happens to the British sense of humour when these people move to France? Knocking one's country is a British hobby. How come so many who move to France become so sensitive when they ''perceive'' their new country to be knocked. Do they leave their sense of humour along with their mortgages in the UK?[:D]

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Could you perhaps, Jon, be more explicit about what you see as "relentless negativity"? Can you spell it out, give examples? Some observations such as "there is a lot of dog poo in town" or "3 cars got burnt down my road this week" or "an increasing number of people in employment now are homeless and live in their cars" - is that relentless negativity?

And perhaps you could do the same with "positive comments"?

I'll get you started here, as I am feeling full of positivity today.

When someone enters a waiting room in France, they usually say "Bonjour" to everyone. Positive, life-enhancing.

If you feel really unwell and wonder what might be wrong with you, go to the GP, and he/she will immediately send you to the lab , for a battery of tests. And on to a specialist, without further ado. Positive.

As for the weather and the wonderful Midi light? Now I do feel waxing lyrical about that (and that's why I don't live in Britanny or Limousin).

I can go on, this is just a small sample.I can do both, and frequently do. That's what I mean by richness of life.

And I enjoy pot noodles too.

 

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Dear me - and I was trying to be serious for a change.

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Also, whatever happens to the British sense of humour when these people move to France? Knocking one's country is a British hobby. How come so many who move to France become so sensitive when they ''perceive'' their new country to be knocked. Do they leave their sense of humour along with their mortgages in the UK?[:D]

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By "these people" you mean????

Tell you what - let's try a simple test. How would people reading this thread (if they can be bothered) respond to the following statement posted by a new bug*:

"The health service in France is excellent. The provision of care and the speed of treatment is unsurpassed and exceeds in all respects the service provided in the United Kingdom by the NHS."

* I meant hypothetical. If anyone thinks I am going to spent my evening digging over 8600 posts searching for an actual quote they are mistaken.

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Moi, I simply LOVE French cinema, and I have always said so.   I love going to the pictures here, you never know what you're going to see, and although the Multiplexe is the same price as the Southampton Odeon (9.50 euros), it's a bit nicer.

The Diagonal cinemas in Mop show VO films, but PingPong made me feel like a crusty old fonctionnaire last week.  Teutonic kitchen-sink [+o(].   I looked for Wagnerian or Goethian references, but they were too subtly hidden among dead dogs and axed table tennis tables.

Les Ambitieux was not bad the other day, my copine said it was full of rebondissements.  I said yes, the lead actress was generously and bouncily endowed, wasn't she, but I suspect copine was intending something more intellectual than that. 

Razorlight were mega on Sunday night in Lyon, and if anyone's passing the Ninkasi, pop in and have a damn good BEER.   

Yes, now there's a point, I always have a lovely time when I go to Lyon, it has a real buzz to it, and people are friendly.   The Arabic kebab-shop owners even encourage me to speak my 3 words of Arabic!   It's brilliant, I love that!  [:)]

My dog is French, I love him too.  [:)]

And as you all know, I simply love and adore tartiflette.

And that fat greasy-haired gypsy violin player in La Comedie, I like him too, but he's getting a bit blasé these days, and his young and lovely protégé is the one to look out for. 

And hey, the new trams are mega-mega-mega!!!   Flower power gone mad!  

There, how +ve do you want?   It's not MY fault my neighbours don't own pigs!  [:-))]   

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[quote user="Jon"][Tell you what - let's try a simple test. How would people reading this thread (if they can be bothered) respond to the following statement posted by a new bug*:

"The health service in France is excellent. The provision of care and the speed of treatment is unsurpassed and exceeds in all respects the service provided in the United Kingdom by the NHS."

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I think they'd say jolly hey ho dahlings, it's simply and absolutely marvellously true!

Was that the right answer?  [:-))]

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[quote user="Jon"][Tell you what - let's try a simple test. How would people reading this thread (if they can be bothered) respond to the following statement posted by a new bug*:

"The health service in France is excellent. The provision of care and the speed of treatment is unsurpassed and exceeds in all respects the service provided in the United Kingdom by the NHS."

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I think they'd say jolly hey ho dahlings, it's simply and absolutely marvellously true!

Was that the right answer?  [:-))]

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This is one of those questions to which there is no actual right answer....

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[quote user="Jon"][quote user="LanguedocGal2"]

Also, whatever happens to the British sense of humour when these people move to France? Knocking one's country is a British hobby. How come so many who move to France become so sensitive when they ''perceive'' their new country to be knocked. Do they leave their sense of humour along with their mortgages in the UK?[:D]

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By "these people" you mean????  These people[:D]

Tell you what - let's try a simple test. How would people reading this thread (if they can be bothered) respond to the following statement posted by a new bug*:

"The health service in France is excellent. The provision of care and the speed of treatment is unsurpassed and exceeds in all respects the service provided in the United Kingdom by the NHS."  Answer: These people masquerading as a bug.

* I meant hypothetical. If anyone thinks I am going to spent my evening digging over 8600 posts searching for an actual quote they are mistaken. Oh go on... we dare you[:D] 
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I am unconfused. I am not a pessimist, I am however, in the company of several quite often.

I am bored. I suspect there is a great deal of difference between male and female boredom.   I wasn't bored from the age of 30 to the age of 50, I was 30 when we moved into la campagne. I am not frustrated, what else is there to do if one is bored[6] and as we are home alone a lot of the time these days, well.

I am glad that Rumzigal has a job she likes, she desserves it. She is a very clever lady and with her level of education and experience she should have been snatched up by french employers....... but no, she wasn't. What did they offer her........cleaning lady, not that there is anything wrong with anyone cleaning, but really, quite disgraceful to not use a talented person in one's midst.

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I am new to this forum and can't believe how often some of you post!!  Do any of you have jobs, not to mention, dare I say, lives

RumziGal, I thought I had just read, (I am doing a whole search on you all right now), that says you work in the UK whilst hubs and child are at home, what do you do that allows all this time on the forums?  Are there any other jobs going, must be a doddle your job!!

This forum is a hoot, full of some very pent up emotions, perhaps a new area where you could get some therapy might work!

It's actually nice to see some real 'talking' taking place, not just when's the market at X on,

I'll be back..

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