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I will shortly be fitting a high kitchen unit which holds an integrated oven and  microwave. Both these appliances can be fitted to the normal power feed i.e. 16/20 amps but I am not sure whether I should connect them to fused connection units or ordinary switched sockets. Is it also possible to put these connections actually behind the appliances within the high unit as presumably there will be enough room.

Additionally on an adjacent work surface I will also have to fit and connect an induction hob to 6mm cables which are already in place by the skirting board, is it necessary to fit on an adjacent wall a fixed cooker control unit to control this.

The EDF trip is very near to the kitchen and can be activated quite easily in the event of an emergency, but I am not sure of the French regs on this.

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tj

Thanks for the reply, but am I right in thinking that because one of the appliances i.e. the microwave, is rated at 3Kw and normally, at least in my house, just connected to a socket outlet, why is there a need for a dedicated circuit for that. Sorry if I sound confused!

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The French rules seem to work on anything fixed should have a cable outlet rather than a socket. So a built-in microwave would have a cable outlet, but an ordinary table top microwave would plug into the ordinary sockets in the kitchen. Not completely logical but that's the way it goes (in theory)
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[quote user="Ceejay"] ... connect them to fused connection units or ordinary switched sockets ...  but I am not sure of the French regs on this.
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I'm sure someone will correct me here if I wrong ... but, as suggested by a previous replier, I think one of the problems is that your concepts here are a bit too 'British'  [8-)].  You see, FCUs and SSOs don't really figure in 'La Norme Français C15-100, Installations électriques à basse tension' ... [:)]   To the best of my knowledge, in France socket outlets ('prises') aren't switched and connections units ('sorties de cable') aren't fused - or switched, for that matter. So using either will be outside the competence of the NF.

That said, you can probably use a prise for the micro - after all, micros normally come fitted with a plug ('fiche'), right?  And for the oven ('four'), a sortie de cable.  To conform to the NF, the four should be on its own circuit taken straight from the tableau.

Btw, the 'plaques de cuisson' need to be protected by a 'interrupteur différential' rated at 30mA, Type A, the other circuits by a interrupteur différential rated at 30mA, Type AC.  Again, cooker control units are a UK thing.

HTH

Craig

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ventodue

Thanks for that, but because the micro will be integrated I shall not use a prise but a fixed connection, although on the prise circuit. The four is rated at 3Kw also, so is there a need for it to have its own circuit? The plaques de cuisson is rated at, I think, 8 Kw or so, and I shall indeed put that on the old cooker circuit separately with a 32amp disjoncteur. I understand also that a dishwasher has to have its own circuit?

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Hi Ceejay,

[quote user="Ceejay"]... because the micro will be integrated I shall not use a prise but a fixed connection, although on the prise circuit.[/quote]

Same difference, I reckon.  However, I do think a 3Kw micro should properly be on its own circuit, not on the general prise circuit.

[quote user="Ceejay"]The four is rated at 3Kw also, so is there a need for it to have its own circuit? [/quote]

Yes, according to my understanding of the NF.

[quote user="Ceejay"]I understand also that a dishwasher has to have its own circuit?[/quote]
Ditto:  "Prise 10/16 A + terre specialisée pour lave-vaiselle alimenté par une ligne indépendante depuis le tableau de protection".

HTH

Craig

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