Danglar Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 HE HAS SIRET FOR ELECTRICAL WORK BUT HE PROPOSES TO DO PLUMBING AND GENERAL BUILDING WORK AND CLAIMS HE HAS 10 YEARS GUARANTEE...Hello !I raised this point in another posting a few weeks ago but did not read a comment about this issue.The artisan whom I asked to quote me for refurbishing the whole of the bathroom has a Siret which , I checked, is issued only for electrical work. He claims he can guarantee his work and he has insurance that will cover it for 10 years. But I wonder.... Why has he not got a more comprehensive siret ?ANy comments ?thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeb Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 If you checked out his SIRET on an internet site, there will only be one trade listed (that which he put at the top of his list); if you ask to see his Chambre de Metiers card, it will have everything listed that he is able to do under his SIRET.Many French plumbers are electricians as well, and also heating engineers.You could ask to see his decinale insurance certificate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danglar Posted April 4, 2009 Author Share Posted April 4, 2009 What a strange thing to do, quoting only the first of a list of trade the member can do ! But thank you for the explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Trollope Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 The only accurate check is to look at his registration card AND his insurance docs. Both list exactly what he is entitled to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 That's how the system works - the primary trade is the one that appears on the basic listings. You can see the whole list on many of the checking sites, along with a lot of other detail, if you pay.Many French plumbers also do electrics, and vice versa. The two seem to go together for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesFlamands Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Whilst it doesn't really matter what you are registered for with the Chambre de Metiers, the most important thing is the trades LISTED INDIVIDUALLY on your attestation d'assurance. It is absolutely essential that you get a copy of this attestation before you sign any contract.We are registered as an 'Entreprise generale du batiment' and have a long list of individual trades listed on our insurance but some trades are absorbed into other things such as plasterboarding is conered under 'poseur menuiserie' but main trades such as 'macon beton arme', 'electricien', 'couvreur' etc. etc. are all very clearly specified with their limitations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Plombier Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 It is true the siret will cover the only one activityThe comments made about the registration card from the Chambre de Metiers and the insurance are valid, they list all the activitiesThe insurance attestation is the best document to checkIt is more and more difficult to get decennal insurance these days and if you cannot prove to the insurers you are both registered, qualified and experienced in a particular activity then they will refuse to insure youI had a major problem with my insurers some time back getting them to cover me for underfloor heating, I now have that cover but only for heating, not for cooling applications and I am not covered for laying the chappe liquide, not that I would want toIn all cases ask for a copy of the insurance attestation and check the required activity is listed, if it is not then you will probably not be able to claim on the artisans insurance if there is a future problemLe Plombier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Trollope Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 [quote user="Le Plombier"]It is true the siret will cover the only one activity[/quote]I don't understand that. My "carte d'identification" issued by the Ch de Met in Dinan carries my SIRET number and the list of activities for which I am registered (including one - video thermography - that is covered by the Ch de Commerce) presumeably "under" my one SIRET number. As does my insurance certificate (except that for which I don't need insurance - thermography). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Plombier Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 It may be listed on the Carte but a Siret No check will probably only show the activity the C de M have decided is the principle oneMine shows climatisation although I am also listed for plomberie, chauffage etcThe attestation de insurance shows all and if they cannot produce one you should not employ them as you may well not be properly covered for the workMy comments are based on my dealings with the C de Metiers, I have no knowledge of what the C de Commerce doLe Plombier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Trollope Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 [quote user="Le Plombier"]It is true the siret will cover the only one activity[/quote]Did you mean to say "It is true that the SIRET checking sites will cover one one activity"?If not, I still don't understand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Plombier Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 NickTrue the siret checking sites only cover one activityLe Plombier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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