NEW TV AND TELEPHONE REGULATIONS

[Steve Heather]

Confused about electrical regulations. Can anybody confirm if it is compulsory or just advisory to have a telephone and TV point in every room? I am just completing a first time wiring installation in a 200 year old cottage, the downstairs was done by a qualified electrician 2 years ago and recently the upstairs by myself. Also what type of form do I require from the CONSUEL? JAUNE, VERTE OR BLUE  and do you have to enclose a cheque when you order the form?

Steve Heather

[Nick Trollope]

The normes are obligatory, but they don't require a TV point in every room.

What CONSUEL you apply for depends on what CONSUEL you need. Do you need a new supply, or a safety check?

 

[pachapapa]

As a confused and bemused onlooker I get the impression that NF C 15-100 Ammendement 3 in respect of a Permis de Construire dated after 31/07/10 removes the requirement for a Prise de Communication in the kitchen. Am I correct in making the assumption that works in hand with earlier Permits would still have to install such sockets in the kitchen or would the Ammendement 3 retrospectively relieve them of this obligation.[:D][:D][:D]

 

[pachapapa]

[quote user="pachapapa"]

As a confused and bemused onlooker I get the impression that NF C 15-100 Ammendement 3 in respect of a Permis de Construire dated after 31/07/10 removes the requirement for a Prise de Communication in the kitchen. Am I correct in making the assumption that works in hand with earlier Permits would still have to install such sockets in the kitchen or would the Ammendement 3 retrospectively relieve them of this obligation.[:D][:D][:D]

 

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Still bemused after 24 hours.[:)]

[Nick Trollope]

Why bemused? What is funny? It is all in the normes, should you care to read them.

 

[Badger LX]

I'm pasting in an article I've written previously:

There is often confusion &/or denial about

the requirements for TV & telephone (PTT) outlets here in France.

Hopefully what follows will clarify things.

French domestic wiring regulations (NF C

15-100) specifies certain minimum amounts of power sockets, lights,

communications outlets (TV & phone points) etc. These minimums apply to

new builds & total rewires of existing property if they are

to comply with regulations in force at the time of inspection*.

The normes specify that there should be a

"prise de communication" (deemed to be an RJ45 type socket) in all

"pièces principal". So, that means that all obvious rooms such as

lounges, dining rooms, bedrooms, studies, etc. (plus the kitchen) need

to have one, with the minimum total being two (for a small apartment I

guess).

However, this is not to be misinterpreted to

mean that all rooms need both a TV & a phone/communications point. This

is because a "prise de communication" is ultimately intended to supply

all communications needs from the one outlet i.e. phone, computer

network/internet & TV signals. How this works is the subject of another

posting, but if the cabling used for these outlets isn't up to the

necessary standard to take the higher frequencies required for

terrestrial TV &/or satellite TV signals it will still be

necessary to install TV outlets ("prises de type coaxial") where they

are required. As you'd expect, there is a minimum specification for

this, being:

Two coaxial outlets for accommodation up to to 100m²

habitable area.

Three coaxial outlets for accommodation over 100m²

habitable area.

A place with under 35m² habitable area is allowed to

get away with only one TV outlet.

All communications outlets need

to be placed adjacent to a power outlet to allow easy connection of

associated equipment i.e. cordless phone base stations, answering

machines, computers etc. The same principle applies to TV outlets if

they are in separate locations.

Don't forget if you wish to record

from satellite TV whilst watching a different channel you will need to

have two dish feeds installed to your receiving equipment.

To up date all that: As of 31/07/2010 the most basic "coffret de communciation" must have all "prises de communication" terminated in a female RJ45 which is then patched to the phone splitter with "cordons de brassage" (short Cat5/6 patch leads). If you are going to that trouble it's probably better to invest in a bit more than the basic box & have one that includes the obligatory 2 x 16A sockets, plus there's usually space to house your ADSL box/modem/router too.

[pachapapa]

[quote user="Nick Trollope"]

Why bemused? What is funny? It is all in the normes, should you care to read them.

 

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Silly me being lazy again.[:)]

All debemused now.        

Les normes n'étant pas rétroactives, sur les anciennes installations, il n'y a pas d'obligation de se mettre en conformité avec la norme, tant qu'il n'y a aucune modification, d'extension ou d'adjonction.Par contre, si un appareil ou un équipement doit être remplacé, le circuit auquel il est raccordé doit être en bon état et conforme à la norme NF C 15-100

[pachapapa]

Thanks Badger for heads up. The open plan and studio flats now clear. vis-à-vis Amendement 3.

http://www.promotelec.com/upload/filpilote/b8041efc-a4ca-4d34-9f31-d9c636a05b67.pdf