Jump to content

White on grey slab mix?


JohnRoss
 Share

Recommended Posts

Trying to pour some exterior concrete slabs and am a bit stunned by the difference in price of white cement compared with grey at the local Brico, white about 19 euros a sack and the same quantity in grey like Lafarge about 7.8 euros. Any expert out there who knows if I can make the slab mostly using the grey cement and then pour a mix on top using white cement while the grey mix is still uncured, i.e. as soon as I have finished pouring the grey cement mix. Will the two mixes bond and will the grey discolour the white mix surface?...........JR
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Good prices Braco as the ones I quoted were for 35kg sacks but yours were significantly cheaper, not seen a Bricoman shop around here, Deux Sevres. Thanks for the info broy so I will give it a go and see what happens. I gather you can buy fibres to strengthen the mix rather than use rusty metal rods, rebar, any experiences with that?...................JR 
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I have used the fibres to do my window cills and they havnt cracked but maybe they wouldnt have anyway, they are a complete rip off though and mine came from floor sweepings of a GRP fabrication shop. If you look really carefully you can see wisps of fibre appearing where the corners are eroding, some little bits of concrete mould flash are hanging on by the fibres like tagnuts on a dog!

Will using white cement actually make your concrete any whiter? wont you have to use white sand? In any case wont it just discolour anyway? I always find that standard concrete looks pretty white after a coup de Karcher, that is the bits that remain around the exposed aggregate. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hi JohnRoss

I am a highways civil engineer by training - though I have spent the last thirty years on the management side.

What exactly are you building -size/depths/use?

The best way to start is to design your mix/formwork/joints.

We will shortly be concreting an area near the pool - 50m2 x 0.175.

As this area is only to be used for sun beds I will use a C15 mix for the first 100mm and top off with a 75mm mix of white cement/white stone chippings/sand. The slab will have two expansion joints.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Another option is the addition of pigments to the final layer.

CONCRETE PIGMENTS
Here is a list of our most popular concrete dyes. Also refered to as cement dye the powdered pigment is packaged in 25kg bags and is used to colour precast concrete by adding it to the concrete as it is being mixed. These Iron Oxide pigment blends are inter mixable and are the professional choice for colouring concrete.

Order total (Any combination of colours)

COLOUR

30+BAGS

10-29 BAGS

1-9 BAGS
 

£ P

£ P

£ P
YORK BUFF

18.00

21.00

23.00
BUFF

21.50

24.50

26.50
DEEP BUFF

21.50

24.50

26.50
YELLOW

24.00

27.00

29.00
STRONG YELLOW

27.00

32.00

34.00
NUT BROWN

20.00

23.00

25.00
LIGHT BROWN

32.00

35.00

37.00
BROWN

24.00

27.00

29.00
RUSTIC BROWN

31.50

34.50

36.50
DARK BROWN

33.00

36.00

38.00
ORANGE

31.00

34.00

36.00
PLUM

27.00

30.00

32.00
RED

24.00

27.00

29.00
TERRA COTTA

24.50

27.50

29.50
STRONG RED 130

26.50

31.50

33.50
STRONG RED Y101

27.50

32.50

34.50
STRONG BLACK

27.50

30.50

32.50
STRONG WHITE

81.00

84.00

86.00
CREAM

42.00

45.00

47.00
YORK GREEN

30.00

33.00

35.00
SAGE GREEN

26.00

29.00

31.00
OLD YORK GREEN

32.00

35.00

37.00

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Ok it is a base for an outside cat run so our boys, house cats, and their adopted auntie can get some fresh air. Not load bearing other than the weight of three cats and me when I go in to clean up. I have tried the two layer approach of grey and a toping of white which seems to work to some extent. The project is a bit of an experiment as I have not used white cement before and if this is successful I want to cover an old concrete base in the garden with slabs cast on top using the white concrete and a very small amount of colouring agent powder which is stocked locally by Bricomarché.

I did notice that when being a bit clumsy removing the form from one of the slabs that one of the corners of the white concrete came away cleanly from the grey concrete underneath which might indicate that the two layers had not fused properly but time will tell I guess. I will keep the slabs damp for the next few days. I am using a 3 to 1 mix for both types of concrete and the slabs are 5 to 6 cms thick and 1 metre square and have rusty iron grids inserted. The ground has not been disturbed for many years and is quite firm and whilst I accept that they are a bit thin I am hoping that in the event that they move cracking will take place in the joints between the slabs and not the slabs themselves. Anyway an interesting experiment and time will tell!.......................JR  

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share

×
×
  • Create New...