joidevie Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Hi all..I was hoping to find a (French) product to use to paint on areas of water damaged plaster (ceiling) to stop the plaster staining through. Each coat of paint simply allows the brown 'stain' to filter through..I've tried some liquide d'achrochage (for tiling on, a rough equivalent to PVA) without success.. I've since been sold some "durcisseur de mur" which seems like a flaky wall hardener, but before I blow €17 by opening it and it not working, I thought I'd ask first, and exchange it if I've got it wrong!Many thanks for any tips.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sid Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 The water stain will just leech through any emulsion/acrylic paint finish. You'll have to block the stain with an oil based product such as Julien ....http://tinyurl.com/6yzgfl4or http://tinyurl.com/5wghd8mI've used this second one to block stains from a chimney, having fixed the chimney problem first! The stain hasn't reappeared so far (8 months). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joidevie Posted July 5, 2011 Author Share Posted July 5, 2011 Looks like good stuff..Can only find it at Leroy Merlin or Castorama online, so it's either a long trip, or running around like a madman from one brico to another more locally.. Clearly an oil based product..Many thanks.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericd Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Use any kind of oil based paint (unercoat or top coat) this will stop the water stains showing through and be good as new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idun Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Bin Zinsser, as recommended by a decorator friend in France. Expensive, usually bought from specialist paint shops and very very good. It stinks though and the place will need well ventilating.pagesjaunes.fr will get you a specialist paint shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave&Olive Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 hi ok Ericd has given you the best advice any oil based paint .... but not gloss.. but undercoat .. eggshell ect will do the job Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 I had same problem in UK and Homebase sold an expensive paint that covers water damaged ceilings - it worked - what a bargain! Sold house on first viewing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joidevie Posted July 6, 2011 Author Share Posted July 6, 2011 Some top answers as usual - many thanks!I'll return the hardener and invest in a half litre the JULIEN (Bricodepot have it on their web site) first, then consider stinking the house out (every review of the Bin Zinsser flags this..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connolls Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Hi,I know Dave and Olive said not gloss but we have used this (rollered on with small gloss roller) on small patches of ceiling stain and then painted with matt emulsion and its worked wonders........still looks good after 3 years !!Is there a reason for "not gloss" at all Dave and Olive ?Thanks Mel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave&Olive Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 hi ok Only in that emulsion does not stick to it very well on the first coat Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sid Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 As pointed out, you can use an undercoat-type paint, but the special products have even more pigmentation in them, so they cover better. The reason for not using glosss is that it has a shiny surface which doesn't give a good key for finishing coats.There are other makes beside Julien of course, it's just that I have used it and found it worked well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheLight Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 we used a purpose spray paint for a ceiling stain from an old chimney. It was quite expensive at around 12.00 but 2 years later it still seems to be OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chippiepat Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 why even think of buying something special when you have been told any old oil based paint will do??I don't know anyone who has'nt got a drop of old paint knocking about, and I know for a fact that it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG MAC Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 We use Zinsser in fire damaged houses once cleaned then the 'grey' ceilings are etc are treated....brilliant stuff - no leaching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 [quote user="BIG MAC"]We use Zinsser in fire damaged houses once cleaned then the 'grey' ceilings are etc are treated....brilliant stuff - no leaching[/quote]Seconded, dries fast and doesn't smell that bad. It's only shellac in a thinner but works very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idun Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Yes, Bin Zinsser as I said on the first page. The one we got stank to high heaven for but a little while. Dries really fast and then you shove a coat of whatever on it or paper over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Théière Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 It must be a nose thing Idun, Had to clean carpets of a flat that stank of wet dogs, owner couldn't smell it but it nearly made me gag. After cleaning etc the smell had gone (to me) but owner then compained it smelt of dogs [8-)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idun Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 I have bought bin zinsser in the UK and there are different types, so I discussed it and bought a different one. The one I have used most recently doesn't stink, where as the one in France I put a mask on to be honest whilst I was using it, in spite of having the window wide open.AND we have found our tin from France and as I have another little job to do, it'll be mask out again and use the smelly stuff, but I think that the smelly one is the best actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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