Hi Johnross, thanks again for replying, the information is really helpful.We are hoping to be in france on the 18th of this month weather permitting this side (not too much snow) to look at the house, its my sisters, she bought it ten years ago and has never used it only too check up on it, So she does not know anything about the winters there as she has not been at that time. The winters get very cold here, at times we have minus 25 and it is too much for my partner Chris, I dont mind it so much as its very beautiful here and I like snow, We pay here for four cubic metre of beech trunk cut at one metre lenght and split into eight aprox... delivered 230 euros, for oak, four cubic metres, they deliver the whole trunks and cut them up when they arrive into one and a half whole lenghts for 120 euros. We dont have logs as such apart from the ones we collect from the forest ourselves, so its chain saws and axes for us, Chris cuts up with the chain saw and I split it with the axe. It would be interesting to know how much they sell those log splitters for your side, I know we can get them here but I have never looked at the price. Anyway thanks again.....