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[quote user="Clair"][quote user="artsole"]wow, that was quick.......................but it was only fun, the french arn't gonna be offended..............it's used here in france all the time here............why not let the french on here decide[:D][/quote] I am French and I decided [:)] [/quote] So, one french person on here has the right for censorship [geek][geek][geek] it's like wiping your 'arts' with silk[kiss] Post edited by the moderators as per the code of conduct: Users must not post messages which: Contain explicit language or vulgarities (whether written in French, English or any other language)

[quote user="artsole"] ah swearing in  french.....................it just rolls off the tongue[Www] Sorry, this had to go to protect the sensibility of readers of the French language... Like wipeing your 'artsole' with silk[:-))] Post edited by the moderators, as per the Code of Conduct: Users must not post messages which: Contain explicit language or vulgarities (whether written in French, English or any other language) [/quote] wow, that was quick.......................but it was only fun, the french arn't gonna be offended..............it's used here in france all the time here............why not let the french on here decide[:D] You want to protect the 'sensibility' of the french[blink][blink][blink][blink]

ah swearing in  french.....................it just rolls off the tongue[Www] Sorry, this had to go to protect the sensibility of readers of the French language... Like wipeing your 'artsole' with silk[:-))] Post edited by the moderators, as per the Code of Conduct: Users must not post messages which: Contain explicit language or vulgarities (whether written in French, English or any other language)

[quote user="Ian"]With Pétrus '82 at about £25k a case i could fit the average UK house worth in the back of my diddy citroën C2 ... anyone evr tasted an uber-wine like that? Gluey, you mentioned you were wined and dined during corporate life - you tried a Le Pin 82 or a Latour 61? Gertrude Stein recommended to Hemmingway he invest his money in modern artists the same age as him - he was too young and poor (at that time) to afford Gris or Picasso (which were in Steins collection).  He took her advice and did rather nicely.  Just a thought - no axe to grind. [/quote] yea yea yea..............now ya talking Ian? invest in artists..............not wine;......................my prices are fairly reasonable at the moment................when I'm dead, probably in the millions[:-))]

had friends round last night and listened to this...................on vinyl, full blast.................raw or what! small faces[:D]

[quote user="ErnieY"] Thanks for the update and I'm truly sorry for the unfavourable outcome, especially given the pathetic reason. Hard to dismiss the thought that there may have been some skulduggery involved. Bright Ideas: nothing I'm afraid beyond the obvious which unfortunately are either impractical, impossible or unpalatable i.e. Move Buy the land Live with it [:(] Good luck   [/quote] Not a lot of positive choice there Ernie:[:-))] Move......................but since the planning permission next door was granted.= value of house drops, no one will buy next to a new build project Buy the land....................if he had the money for that, then he could move, or buy the land, sell it at a profit for a new build and and then move Live with it....................;c'est le vie[blink] perhaps it may have been better to live in PROVENCE![kiss] EDIT: the fat lady sang!

[quote user="Frederick"]Artsole ......Society is being given the wrong message when it comes to crime .....just look at the longest running TV shows ..Emmerdale ...Eastenders  Coronation Street .....,most of the main characters  in these shows seem to pop in and out of jail as a matter of course .......What a message to put out to the kids watching them  .....Prison is just some place you go off you  every now and again ....as seen on the soaps  where crimes committed are a part of everyday life ....I havent counted them all but the number of characters having    " done time "  put together in these shows must run to double figures ?[/quote] Frederick, I would suggest you stop watching 'soaps' if you are going  to think like that...........................there are plenty of sites on the web that give much more realistic statistics and realistic ideas about crime and punishment.[:-))] All you've done since posting this thread is respond with a narrow-minded, judgemental and un-informed stance.............and I think that no matter what other people say.................you are too entrenched in  your own beliefs about why there is too much crime etc[:(]

oh..............that didn't work................tried to post a link[:-))]

Yes, I've seen it..................just goes to show, politicians have no 'firkin' [geek]idea. It's the same in France, and Psycosis..........oh sorry sarkosy is going to probably have to do the same http://quickstart.clari.net/qs_se/webnews/wed/bs/Ufrance-prisons.RMYQ_DOS.html

[quote user="Logan"]    I would rather think long term and invest in wonderful 2005 Samur or Chinon. Then sup the lot during the year I expire. Perfect end.[:D] [/quote] I would rather drink long term and digest in wonderful obscrurity and not think about the year I'm going to expire................perfect end[:-))]

[quote user="Weedon"] Artsole, my suggestion for the IOW was simply in reply to the O/P which asked about island prisons and the fact that UK prisons had placed NO VACANCIES cards in all of their front windows, rather like all the B&B places in Shanklin, Ventnor and other hotspots. Rather than embark on a programme of building new prisons, perhaps build more houses for the IOW people then do a swop.  In line with the current trend of dumbing down everything and a one size fits all celebrity list, maybe a celebrity prison governor, swopping over from time to time.  How about the speaker Michael Martin for a first celeb prison governor? [/quote] Weedon, can I have some of what your 'taking'[Www]

[quote user="dwmcn"] Artsole, The people and language here are nothing compared to some forums. [/quote] dwmcn, I'm sure thats true.................but I'm not totally innocent you know[blink] but perhaps you could point me in the right direction....................for the other forums[:-))]

[quote user="Alan Zoff"] Hey, there's a thought. Dispense with reality and reasoned debate and only post things that make everything rosy in le jardin. Problem solved. I feel better already.       [/quote] Alan, wouldn't it make you feel better just to say, 'p*ss off'!

[quote user="Just Katie"]Pie and Mash up Roman Road!  E3.[/quote] I once tried to explain 'pie and mash' to someone french.................................I'll leave it to your imagination as to what they thought about it[geek]

It's been said to you on another forum, guadian.................so I'm not going to repeat it[kiss]

[quote user="Weedon"] Just as I had decided to kickstart this thread up pops Reg. Have a little fun with this, who, from the Living France Forum, might Fred be, who are the 7 girls in the back and who is driving? [/quote] all I can say is 'lucky fred'[:-))] must have been a limo![Www] James Taylor.............excellent..................but with Carole King of course[:)]

Seems like Steve has a good system...............will keep the tax collectors happy anyway?[:-))]

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[quote user="David"] Artsole, I fully agree with you about "just being a gypsy", but I know that I am a bit too old and fuddy duddy to be able to just leave it all behind, and I suspect that that might also apply to the OP Mark.   David [/quote] David...................have you just insulted the OP mark[:-))] he might not see himself as 'too old and fuddy duddy'[Www] actually I think I saw that he hadn't reached 50 yet.............................I sincerely hope that's not too old to be daring and do the gypsy thing[blink] if so, I'm well past it[:(]

[quote user="sweet 17"]Whatever his nationality, his English was definitely dodgy and I wasn't about to enter into discussions with someone who couldn't write properly and who sent me 3 emails on the trot. [/quote] Careful, sweet 17................thet coud include 80% of poters on Leving Franc[:-))] They didn't send me one either..................Perhaps they think an artist doesn't have enough money to 'scam'[Www] But good to see people on the ball with something like this[:D]

[quote user="Gemini_man"]You shouldn't believe all your read in the newspapers. You will obviously draw your own conclusions as to the purpose of the operation. [/quote] So, my conclusion would be that it was 'political', a knee jerk reaction to gain votes for the conseil général[:-))] which is what I've been saying on another thread about prisons and crime! Ron, yes, time will tell, but do france publish figues like that.................I believe that it will make no significant difference............perhaps in the Dordogne it put a 'few' brits off........but that's probably it.  The person you know working 'undeclared' in your area, have you told the authorities?

[quote user="Frederick"]It now seems the governement has found an answer to overcrowding ....Prison officers and their families living in houses owned by the Prison Service  ( Married Quarters )  for which they pay rent have up to May to get out or face eviction..Their homes are going to be used to move inmates into  wearing tags as they are build close to the prisons they can be kept under supervision.   That should free up a few cells  ... The prison officer who has to find a new home for his family move the kids out of school etc  probable will not  get  a mortgage on his salery in London big enough to buy a house  so. he will have to leave the prison service  and move out of London ...or  probably go sick with stress and take early retirement ..... When they run out of these houses ....plenty of married quarters inside the wire in military establishments to evict families from  for the poor tagged prisoners .................... now I know the lunatics are in charge of the asylum ![/quote] Frederick, this is a typical 'knee jerk' reaction from a government that has no idea about the real issues! Where did you see this report by the way? Weedon..............hope there's no one from the IOW on here[:$] But when you think about it, you don't really need an island to imprison someone..................a prison by definition does it already! Patf...............OK.............I withdraw my tongue in cheek remarks.................and yes, I have worked with parents whos children have been abused and killed.............not an easy task I can assure you, and yes revenge is the first reaction! And I am in total agreement, the most dangerous should be encarcerated, the problem with prison overcrowding, is that offenders who perhaps just need a community re-education program are also imprisoned under government/judicial get tough policies! Cooperlola.....................I am really pleased that you had a positive experience with someone who could be deemed by some as a 'dangerous offender' , but actually, figures prove that murderers, after release from prison, are the least likely to re-offend[:D] And on the subject of government budgets..................can you imagine if the funds for the prison population were to be put into education and remedial education.............just think about the benefit of prisonworker/prisoner ratio if it were to be transferred to teacher/pupil ratio...............even if it was 6 pupils to one teacher the future benefits could be substantial............and no more forty plus classrooms where the teachers can't cope! Kent does have a high proportion of prisons.......................not sure why, but probably because of its proximity to London?

Having now done some research, can put some of this into perspective...................on the last known figures,(that I could find) in  England and wales there were  approximately 72,000  in prison. The prison service at the same time employed 43,000 ...............thats just over 1 and half prisoners for each member of prison staff. The costs for each prisoner (per year)  is approximately £27,000. In the late 80's I know for sure that the prison population was falling in  England and Wales (Scotland has its own figures) but due to problems of successive 'get tough' home secretaries..................of which Michael Howard was the worst, the prison population has been rising ever since. This just goes some way to prove my point....................if you put £27,000 per year for each delinquant, early intervention could have wide ranging benefits in reducing future problems including crime, accomodation, drugs,(including alcohol) and aggressive behaviour. Can you imagine the significance of future cost savings? Plus the trauma that crime causes victims, which in turn has a financial knock on affect............hospitilisation, loss of work time, insurance claims, It's a known fact...............in my circles that is, that childhood risks (to end up 'antisocial) are family criminality, Risk taking, low school acheivement, poverty and poor parenting skills. Come on do the figures..................there are people on  here who are much more financially aware than me[Www] Thinking of Ian and Gluestick in particularly...........financial wizkids going by some of your posts.[:-))]  

[quote user="Ron Avery"][quote user="Will"]   [/quote]   With any fraud investigation systems you don't have to increase the number of  people carrying out checks to get results.  All you do is to tell people its being done and what is being covered.  Then you just do a couple of people with a lot of publicity.  With these type of investigations, its not the value of the actual detected fraud that counts, its the perceived deterrent value of stopping others who may also be on the fiddle or thinking about doing it.  If in a village a couple of builders got done for working on the black, or a couple were done for tax evasion and this was publicised as were the RMI checks in the Dordogne some time ago, how many others who were doing the same thing would think twice before continuing?     [/quote] Having now read all the articles about the Dordogne fraudsters (lots of publicity)...................................Ron, could you honestly say it's had a deterent affect; [blink]

Rose, you obviously didn't need the money[:D] but having worked brocantes in the past and having seen your photo, radiators like that fetch between 2€ 50 and 5€50 per element, in your photo the rad had 13 elements......................if all were the same size.................that would have been in the region of 116 elements, the guys who took them away may have known this[:(]