[8-|] Agrred the horseflys are biting well , i got tagged again the other night whist getting some photos of a murder of crows , blistered and statred to weep within 12 hrs , applied some after bite ( amonia based ) but twas still weeping so popped it a reakl good squzze and tried to get all the gunky liquid owt !!! , certainly stopped the redness spreading and the lump in thee middle has gone [:D][:D] , prob get a little scar but tis better than thee itchiness of joy .. [8-|][8-|] Tip for thee wise , for years whilst fishing been using an avon product called skin so soft in woodland , indeed keeps thee midgis and tother biters off thee !!! http://avonshop.co.uk/shop/product.asp?pf_id=4982 , used deet jungle formula and a few tothers but nowt is as good as thee avon stuff .Whilst walking the banks of the river hull ( a perticular bad area for horseflys ) , i applied the avon and my mate applied the jungle formula , as we were talking of the merits of each a horsefly popped up and bit him on the hand !!! he could not get into my lure bag quick enought to get the avon [;-)][;-)] [:)] Tis that good even thee royal marines use it http://www.wyrdology.com/edinburgh/midges/avon.html Also anything with deet in it hates plastic and melts it quick sticks no such probs twith the avon , well worth tagging a few bottles i never go fishing twithout it [:D]