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  1. On form 2047 under 1. Traitements Salaires, Pensions et Rentes Imposable en France go to item number 11 Pensions, Retraites, Rentes and under the heading Pensions, Retraites complete pays d'origine ie Royaume Uni then the boxes next to it under the heading Nature Du Revenu Public Prive both need to be ticked then complete the Revenu En Euros (a line for both of you presuming there is two of you). Complete you box for your interest etc (2TR for me but may not be for you depending on your interest) 2OP is on form 2042 a bit further down from the 2TR box tick the box if it applies to you. On the 2042 which comes under Divers and you will find the 8UU to indicate you have foreign accounts then on the following page where you enter your total income for both of you in the box you need ie 8TV etc you will see below the boxes 8SH and 8SI which you must tick as you are on an S1 and so not to incur the Prev Soc charges on your pension income. Hope this makes sense (as I'm doing it from memory) and haven't totally misunderstood what you are asking!
  2. Yes, last year she forgot to include a ref to 2OP but did send an email a few days later with the info. This year I see that she hasn't changed the year from 2018 to 2019 but having been doing mine on line bit by bit all else seems to be the same.
  3. Would this be of any help?

    http://bh-assurances.fr/en/practical-informations/how-to-declare-your-tax-online/
  4. Yes you should tick 8SH & 8SI if you are in receipt of an S1 via your state OAP.

    Can't answer the other questions as I don't have a gov. pension or rental income but it sounds right. Hopefully someone will come along and confirm for you.
  5. Yes, but not on the boxes you mention as we don't have an S1 yet but on the 2047 8TX and the 3916 on one occasion lost all the info. I've corrected several boxes several times but still the 8TX box has lost it's contents! I was beginning to think it's my PC that can't cope memory wise but now I wonder if it's them and not me.
  6. Quite agree with you Laurier 'scary'. Also I much prefer having the paper version in front of me - for me it's much easier to read as reading the screen I tend to miss things for some bizarre reason. Hope your form filling goes OK.
  7. I have read all of your posts and can only say that I feel for all of you. What a terrible thing this is, I had no idea. Lots of luv to you all. xxx Mrs KG
  8. Just in case it is of any help to someone else, my mind now a lot clearer this morning I now remember that there is a small box where you can search for a form or box number and knowing that I must tick 8UU which doesn't appear on the 2042C I put in the search box 8UU that's where the information for using 8I Divers Page 4 and 8I Divers Page 8 came from. By selecting page 4 I was taken to the 2042, page 8 took me first time round to the 2042C (I printed off a copy originally). So I think a bit of the mystery is solved.
  9. Thanks for the link, now read and saved!

    I've been back into the system and somewhere somehow found a note that explained 8I Divers on page 4 of the 2042 and 8I Divers on page 8 of the 2042. Having read the information I needed page 4 in order to tick the 8UU box but didn't need page 8. I did the necessary and then low and behold I had before me a 2042 (not 2042C) which I've completed then picked up the 2047 and duly completed that and the 3916. The 2042 appeared to be the same as last years however the 2047 did not allow me to complete 8TX - section 9 (looking at last years 2047 ) wasn't there to complete but section 9 is on the printed copy - I give up! Anyhow I'm reasonably happy as I have the accuse de reception stating I have completed 2042, 2047 and 3916. I shall just see what transpires as I'm not doing it again - they will think I'm barmy - quite rightly so!
  10. Thanks for all your input David much appreciated.

    Yesterday I deselected the Divers and found my impot showed social charges on my interest only - no social charges on our pension. That frit me cos we are early retired and in Puma and I'm sure I read somewhere that we had to pay socials on our early retirement pensions which goes towards the health system as we no longer make payments to URSSAF. Our last payment request to URSSAF was December 2015 and we've paid nothing since. Maybe I'm just very confused.
  11. Yes, I said that I was rambling on! It's cos the box says 3.8%. Normally we pay PS on pension at the lowest rate due to never being over the bareme. 17.2 % on the miniscule interest! Sorry is that what you are saying? Oooh I think it's time for a nice glass of wine & a bit of cheese!
  12. Guess what, I have so confused myself & probably the tax office that I have re ticked the divers box and am more or less back to where I started. I've printed the forms and the 2047 now has nothing in the 8TX box, the 2042C is showing the amount in the 8TX box and the 2042 doesn't show an 8TX box. We do not have an S1 - we are early retired but hopefully this September one of us gets to apply for the state pension and if Brexit allows it we will also get the S1. I know that we should have no tax to pay which is usual but we do pay PS on our pension & interest at the reduced 3.8% rate. Why I can't shift this blessed 2042C I don't know but the PS calculations match my own workings. Think I'm rambling a bit now maybe I should finish for the day!
  13. Having unticked the 8 Divers box I have now managed to reduced by tax bill by only paying PS on interest and not on the pensions so I've obviously c*cked that up! Oh la la and I thought this year it would be so simple!
  14. I've found the line as you said and have removed the amount! So now I have a blank 8TX on the pink 2047, I have the 2042 and still have the 2042C with the 8TX amount printed in it! I think I may be losing the will to live!

    Edit: going back through the screens yet again I found I have a box automatically ticked ie 8 divers which I've unticked (not sure that I should have)! Off to have another look!
  15. Thanks, I haven't tried that but I will give it a go and will let you know!
  16. Hi David, thanks for the quick reply. The 2047 8TX is printed with the same amount as on the 2042C.
  17. I have just done my tax on-line using 2047, 2042 & 3916. All went well or so I thought however having looked at the PDF docs on my account to print I have all three but I have also acquired an extra document ie a 2042C (complementaire). I did not check the box for this form but it has arrived with the 8TX box completed with the amount as indicated on the 2047. I've gone back into my account and gone through everything again and have left a note in the information page as to why it's there as it shouldn't be as we don't have any complementary income. Can anyone tell me what I may have done/not done or how to delete it - I have tried! The amount payable is correct as I had that worked some time ago. Thanks Mrs KG
  18. Yes, I get the message on the address line flagged up in red 'Not Secure' which is one of reasons I haven't been on this forum much lately. I ought to have done as having read this thread I too a couple of months back received two separate emails from friends or so I thought. I knew it was odd cos they were in french which my english friends over here would never do and ended quite oddly like they ran out of steam. The first one I almost replied to as it listed my friends complete name wishing me a happy new year and that they had a problem and could we talk via email. I was thinking maybe they were really ill and needed some help but it was OH that really made me think about it and as they only live down the road we could pop in. I ran the mouse over the email address and seeing it, it went straight into the orange rouge box. The second email again listed another friend by full name (we are all orange.fr), I checked the address and again a similar address just a different number at the end so into the orange rouge box it went. Now having read this thread I realise that our telephone was up the creek/hacked as people for several weeks had tried to ring us but the phone didn't ring and the orange message service didn't appear to work so we thought the phone was defunct and went out and purchased a new panasonic phone with an answerphone attached. All seems to work fine now or so it seems.

    Having been hacked about 5 years ago and losing everything on my imac photos the lot which led to buying a new imac, I am extremely careful now re not secure websites which is why I haven't been on this one very much!

    Mrs KG

    Interestingly, I have just googled the address and it is listed as fraudulent and it's a gmail.com address
  19. Hi Sue,

    Some years back we received both of these forms and filled them both in thinking if we've been sent them then we must be expected to fill them in (yes, we were a bit green back then!). Imagine our horror when the tax bill arrived for an extortionate amount. Off we went to the tax office only for the 2042C to be ripped in half and thrown in the bin. We were told it was only for extra income such as if we were MEs or receiving income from a gite business - phew what a relief that was! Although we had to pay up then wait for the cheque of reimbursement to arrive a few weeks later. Mrs KG
  20. Thanks David for the english translation. So box 2OP for me.
  21. Thanks Pomme, I've had a read of the document and I will ignore 2OP. We don't pay tax only CSG on pension & interest and as said the interest is miniscule from a few £25 premium bond wins! Mrs KG
  22. Hello all,

    In the past I've always put our miniscule interest in box 2TR however there now appears to be another option ie box 2OP only I don't quite know which to use. Come some kind person explain the difference. Thanks, Mrs KG
  23. Hello Mrs Black,

    The list below is of items that the Prefecture at Laval stated they wanted to see at our interview. We are early retired and have never worked in France and as you will see we took everything from when we first arrived permanently ie 2007 in the hope of getting a TdS valid for 10 years which I'm pleased to say we did. I did not have my name on any utility bills but got myself an EDF Attestation Titulaire de Contract via their website. I was scratching my head as to what else I could supply that was in my name and so copied all the top up insurance attestations and the french saving accounts in my name. Some would say don't supply more than necessary but my view is take everything and go once especially if like us you live a fair distance. We were actually complimented on our dossiers! Hope this is of some help even if it does go on a bit! Oh and I hope you have plenty of ink in your printer if I remember correctly I printed off around 700 pages in total for the two of us! Mrs KG

    LISTE DE PIECES JUSTIFICATIVES POUR LA DELIVRANCE D’UN TITRE DE SEJOUR

    Photoopy of our passports although they took another copy

    Birth & Marriage Certs for both plus a copy of our parents marriage certificates but no translated copies necessary.

    3 photos taken in a french ministry logo authorised booth.

    Originals and Copies x 2 a set for each of us of the following:

    1. Document Communs - Indication relative au domicile

    Proof of acquisition of our house - which is in both of our names

    2. Documents Specifiques Au Titre Sollicite

    2.4 Non actif - Justificatif d’assurance maladie…………

    Proof of Health ie all Attestations for CPAM and Attestations for our top up insurance.

    2.4 Non actif - Justificatif de ressources

    Company Pension Retirement Commencement Letters (which we translated using google) plus the annual increase letters (we didn't translate).

    P60s 2007 to 2018

    French Savings Accounts Statements

    French Bank Statements one per each six months from 2007 to 2018 plus statements for the last 90 days

    English Bank Statements to prove our pension income one per each six months from 2007 to 2018 plus statements for the last 90 days

    2.8 Sejour permanent - Premiere Demand

    Justificative de la continuite de residence pendant 5 ans

    Justificative du droit de sejour durant les 5 annees precedentes

    Avis d’impot sur le Revenue et Prevelevements Sociaux 2007 to 2018

    Taxes Foncieres 2007 to 2018

    Taxe d’Habitation 2007 to 2018

    EDF Bills 2007 to 2018 one per each six months

    Orange Bills 2007 to 2018 one per each six months

    HMRC Leaving the UK Form FD5
  24. You might get a response from someone on this forum as it's Normandy.

    https://unitedinnormandy.com/forums/
  25. [quote user="chessie"]Nothing really to do with this subject - but intrigued by comment that French birth certs contain more info than British ones.

    What is the different info - and would the additional info on French birth certs mean family/ancestor tracing would be easier in France than in UK ?

    Sorry - I know it's a diversion - but interested.

    Chessie

    [/quote]

    Yes, we'd like to know also but didn't ask at the time as we wanted to get in and out asap whilst the going was good!
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