Yes Ron, I still get ITV2 etc but I had these before on a non-sky box so I thought it was just Channel 4 and Five that were "decrypted" with the sky card even though I don't pay anything for them. I had understood that the sky box and card were "married" to each other so to speak as I have another sky card that is in a box that doesn't work, could I swap the cards ? I haven't phoned sky at all, I just know that I got loads of free channels for some strange reason then they all got zapped away along with my Channel 4 and Five. I was thinking of getting my dad to phone sky in the UK (he lives in UK so ok to do so I think) and say that he has a spare box in his bedroom and just wants the card married to the box so that he can watch the free channels, is this a good idea ?????