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“when the recipient of further education can and does go on to earn a lot more due the the education paid for by the state than them that do not go on the said further education during their working life” Unfortunately I think this is no longer necessarily the case. Use to be, but these days is often not. Problem can come when somebody takes 3 (or more) years studying rather than starting their career means they are 3 (or more) years behind somebody who started their career after leaving school. Depending on what is studied (and the chosen career), the delay in starting working can put you several years behind others and, incomes often grow fastest earlier in ones career.

[quote]When does it stop becoming a right and start to become a privilege,11 years state education not enough.[/quote] My own answer to that would be “when somebody has achieved (close to) their potential.

[quote]Chezshells, Please believe me - I am not a Volvo driver, not I hope pathetic, but I simply could not vote for TB.I cannot forget Iraq and the strength of public feeling he chose to ignore. Or the way ...[/quote] In complete agreement. I would add to that how he lied (or misled in a major way) the people over the facts about the Iraq War. He may not have personally crossed out the qualifications - but he was in charge and responsible. If he appointed morally inadequate people to do the work then in my book he is still responsible. I suppose I sympathise with (some) socialist ideals (equality, health service for all, decent education for all, decent housing for all, etc. - maybe they are not socialist but you know what I mean) - yet now have no party to vote for.

Maybe it's the highest given rating, or maybe each person can only vote once) - as its still showing 4 I'll give it another 1 immediatey after this post.

I've posted it as 3 (in a few moments) (4+3+2)/3=3 (is this what you meant ?)

Why do some topics (in the list of topics) have some stars against then (at the right hand side of the column containing the topic title ?

Do you want to be notified of these type of things ? If you do: Would they be better e-mailed (and if so where) rather than starting rather "dull" treads (i.e. dull for anybody else to read and that you then have to "spot" amongst all the other posts) ? Or something else (e.g. maybe a stick thread where IS delete out a post after they have investigated or whatever; a sort of “Report Problems Here” type of thread).

I've been getting quite a few of these errors this evening on doing searches (basic searches) (between 19:00 and 19:30 CET) Server Error in '/' Application. General network error. Check your network documentation. Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information about the error and where it originated in the code. Exception Details: System.Data.SqlClient.SqlException: General network error. Check your network documentation. Source Error: An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current web request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception can be identified using the exception stack trace below. Stack Trace: [SqlException: General network error. Check your network documentation.] System.Data.SqlClient.SqlConnection.OnError(SqlException exception, TdsParserState state) +177 System.Data.SqlClient.SqlInternalConnection.OnError(SqlException exception, TdsParserState state) +52 System.Data.SqlClient.TdsParser.ThrowExceptionAndWarning() +678 System.Data.SqlClient.TdsParser.ReadNetlib(Int32 bytesExpected) +682 System.Data.SqlClient.TdsParser.ReadBuffer() +120 System.Data.SqlClient.TdsParser.ReadByteArray(Byte[] buff, Int32 offset, Int32 len) +224 System.Data.SqlClient.TdsParser.ReadString(Int32 length) +86 System.Data.SqlClient.TdsParser.ReadValue(_SqlMetaData md, Int32 length) +778 System.Data.SqlClient.SqlDataReader.SeqRead(Int32 i, Boolean useSQLTypes, Boolean byteAccess, Boolean& isNull) +383 System.Data.SqlClient.SqlDataReader.SeqRead(Int32 i, Boolean useSQLTypes, Boolean byteAccess) +28 System.Data.SqlClient.SqlDataReader.GetValues(Object[] values) +110 System.Data.Common.SchemaMapping.LoadDataRow(Boolean clearDataValues, Boolean acceptChanges) +61 System.Data.Common.DbDataAdapter.FillLoadDataRow(SchemaMapping mapping) +155 System.Data.Common.DbDataAdapter.FillFromReader(Object data, String srcTable, IDataReader dataReader, Int32 startRecord, Int32 maxRecords, DataColumn parentChapterColumn, Object parentChapterValue) +260 System.Data.Common.DbDataAdapter.Fill(DataSet dataSet, String srcTable, IDataReader dataReader, Int32 startRecord, Int32 maxRecords) +129 System.Data.Common.DbDataAdapter.FillFromCommand(Object data, Int32 startRecord, Int32 maxRecords, String srcTable, IDbCommand command, CommandBehavior behavior) +304 System.Data.Common.DbDataAdapter.Fill(DataSet dataSet, Int32 startRecord, Int32 maxRecords, String srcTable, IDbCommand command, CommandBehavior behavior) +77 System.Data.Common.DbDataAdapter.Fill(DataSet dataSet, String srcTable) +36 InstantASP.InstantForum.Logic.SearchForums(String strQuery, String strForumID, String strOrderBy, String strSortOrder, String strSearchType, String strMemberName, String strPostedWithin, String strSearchWithin, Boolean bolMemberNameExactMatch, Boolean bolIncludeBannedMembers, String strMemberGroupIDFromSearch, String CurrentUserMemberGroupID) +2194 InstantASP.InstantForum.WebSite.search.BindSearchResults() InstantASP.InstantForum.WebSite.search.Page_Load(Object Sender, EventArgs E) System.Web.UI.Control.OnLoad(EventArgs e) +67 System.Web.UI.Control.LoadRecursive() +35 System.Web.UI.Control.LoadRecursive() +98 System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain() +750 Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:1.1.4322.2032; ASP.NET Version:1.1.4322.2032

I’m very glad there are such a range of opinions (dead boring if everybody agrees with everybody). For myself I used to be sympathetic to Labours aims (social equality, etc.) but they then moved somewhat to the “right” of the Conservatives leaving the Lib Dems’ the “left wing party. All things being equal I would vote Labour except that I could never vote for a party that involved the UK in a US Oil War (that was probably illegal), that has lied to (or mislead by omission) the British people, that regards alliances with the US as being more important that with Europe, that cannot educate our children to university level, has legalised political prisoners (trial without jury, etc.), etc. trouble is I bet the Conservatives would do the same in practice. The above is a great disappointment to me. I actually feel that the problem may not be with Labour but with Mr. T As far as voting, I cannot. The Returning Officer in my constituency refuses to register me as an overseas voter (as my postcode is outside his area). My MP has tried to sort this out without success. The electoral commission have stated that legally he must but they cannot get involved in individual cases. I have asked to escalate the issue and he has told me to escalate it to the Council Chief Executive (himself !!). I was politically active (not extreme) when living in the UK and was warned about the Returning Officers attitudes and that I would probably lose my UK vote. I had no vote in the last European elections and have no vote in these elections and am thus pretty cynical about democracy in the UK. If I did have a vote, I would probably vote for my Conservative MP – not because of the party but because he represents the electorate. Over the last year I have contacted him about a number of issues and found that on those issues he did not vote with the party. On several occasions when I have written he has acknowledged and taken the matter up with the appropriate department and a month or two later I have received the full response. He does seem to regard representing people as more important than party dogma and “towing the party line”.

I've got FlashBlock 1.2.9 (which is the latest available from www.mozilla.com. Check for updates and a check for download the current version both have 1.2.9 as the latest - where can you get a later one from ? (The missing banner flash is not a problem for me as its only of LF that this happens - everywhere else is fine)

[quote]I could not work out why the site had ground to a halt and then suddenly I tried turning off Active X controls and it is back to normal. Now I can no longer see the advert at the top of each page (the...[/quote] There is something "dubious" about the banner at the top of the page. I have a “Flash Block” that has been stopping it anyway. Also the site has been slow for some time (compared to other UK (and elsewhere) sites). My “flash block” (the Firefox add-in one) displays a icon button that allows you to manually click on it and play the object. This works everywhere but here it is just goes blank (which is fine from my perspective).

Over the last few days (after I have started watching things again) I have noticed that response times are still pretty slow and earlier this evening got this: Server Error in '/' Application. Timeout expired. The timeout period elapsed prior to completion of the operation or the server is not responding. Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information about the error and where it originated in the code. Exception Details: System.Data.SqlClient.SqlException: Timeout expired. The timeout period elapsed prior to completion of the operation or the server is not responding. Source Error: An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current web request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception can be identified using the exception stack trace below. Stack Trace: [SqlException: Timeout expired. The timeout period elapsed prior to completion of the operation or the server is not responding.] System.Data.SqlClient.SqlCommand.ExecuteReader(CommandBehavior cmdBehavior, RunBehavior runBehavior, Boolean returnStream) +742 System.Data.SqlClient.SqlCommand.ExecuteReader(CommandBehavior behavior) +44 InstantASP.InstantForum.Logic.GetForums(Int32 intMemberGroupID, Int32 intForumGroupID) +351 InstantASP.InstantForum.WebSite.groupcontrol.Page_Load(Object Sender, EventArgs E) System.Web.UI.Control.OnLoad(EventArgs e) +67 System.Web.UI.Control.LoadRecursive() +35 System.Web.UI.Control.LoadRecursive() +98 System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain() +750 Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:1.1.4322.2032; ASP.NET Version:1.1.4322.2032

On the Advanced search, if you put in a single word (e.g. com) and leave it set to ANY words, then it finds loads of links. If you change it to ALL words then it finds one link (ANY and ALL should be the same when you have a single word !!).

[quote]I1, and how would you know what issues TF suffer from or have suffered in the past? According to your posts on here, you've only just joined their community!Running a single forum doesn't take much wo...[/quote] Registered there under current name early-Nov. Was previously registered and active using a different name.

Treading very carefully in what I say now and certainly not suggesting that there is anything wrong with anything anywhere, but the page http://forums.livingfrance.com/shwmessage.aspx?ForumID=289&MessageID=109068 displays very interestingly in my browser (sorry I cant “hyperlink” the page but silly me doesn’t use Internet Explorer).