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  1. Yes like I said I learned my lesson!

    I will keep you informed. I don't find it so easy at the moment here. Hopefully that will change!
  2. I was very fortunate: she paid me the 10 months back eventually! I am so relieved.

    Thanks for all the help, I learned my lesson......
  3. My employer offered me help. He wrote a letter with the help of a laywer to make the situation clear. She has to pay me back the 10 months as soon as possible, if not, we will go to court. We send the letter recommandee today.

    I am still very frightened. There is no day and time set for the état the lieux. She is ignoring most of my emails. She is not answering the phone when I call her.

    What happens if she doesn't show up for the état the lieux?

    So many things went wrong, also from my side. I feel so stupid now. I am so worried that I will never see any of my money back. There is so many weird things happening. The name in he contract is wrong and she is acting extremely nervous now. Ignoring my messages and all. I am afraid that she spend the money and simply cannot give it back.

    I hope this all is just a bad dream :(
  4. I see now that he wrote this:

    Date du paiement : le 23 07 2O2O

    But the date of signature was 04.07.2020??

    May be it should have been 04.08.2020, it is a mistake. Because he send it to me on the 04.08.2020.

  5. Yes the address is right, the quittance is ok except for the date. I didn't understand, but now I understand that it is very important. I still have all the emails and whatsapps in which we were discussing the problem with visale. It's totally clear that on the 4 the there was no payment at all. We were still in discussion and waiting for visale to answer.

    Is the date really crucial? Even when I can proof that it's wrong? It was surely not a mistake.

    I already left the apartment, I send the letter and there were already some visits so there is no way back. And if I had known all of this, I sure wouldn't have left! But I didn't had a clue about the things to come. I really didn't expect all this to happen...

    Still hoping that this worst case scenario is not going to happen and that everything will be fine.

    I will talk to her agency tomorrow, I really hope they are willing to help.
  6. The date of the quittance is indeed 04.07.2020 but I paid after the lease was signed. I didn't understand why he put this date, because I didn't pay before the lease started. I can also proof this with the emails in which we discussed this and the proof of virement of my bank account. It was the 22nd of July.

    Is the quittance illegal now?

    I really don't know if I have the energy to chase after my money. I have the feeling I got screwed big time.
  7. This was btw a big agency with 3 departments in Nice. You would expect some professionality.
  8. Quittance de loyer pour la période du 1 er aout 2020 au 31 juillet2021

    Adresse de la location :




    Je soussigné .......... propriétaire du logement désigné ci-dessus, déclare avoir

    reçu de Madame ..........

    La somme de 14.880 euros au titre du paiement du loyer et des charges pour


    période de location du 1"' Aout 2020 au 31 Juillet 2021 et lui en donne

    quittance, sous réserve de tous mes droits.

    Fait à ..... le 4 I 07 2O2O


    /es reçus qui auraient pu être établisprécédemment en cas de

    du présent terme. Elle est à conserver pendant frols ans

    Déta ldu rèol



    1.130X12 = 13.560 euros

    Provision pour charges :

    110 X 12 = 1:326 euros

    Total du loyer :

    1.240x12 = 14.gg0 euros

    Fait à ..... le 4 I 07 2O20


    That's the quittance.

    The date of the lease is 15.07.2020

    I paid her after the lease was signed. I was still busy with visale and when they rejected my apply I transfered her the money. Of course because I never expected to leave already after 2 months, I didn't even think of it. That the apartment would be that bad.

    Of course I made a huge mistake that will probably will cost me some money. But she made so many mistakes also! I mean, some things were against the law. May be that will help me when this comes to court? I am a foreigner and I really assumed that everything was totally legal and nessesary.

    And no I will never ever do this again in my life!!! Also with the estate agency I am in now, everything is so much easier and much more professional.

    Thanks for your help, I will make a start tomorrow with the help of my french colleagues. There are people there to help us with problems that occur.
  9. I may be sound stupid and I think I lost my money, but when you go to an agency everything should be ok / legal, no? That was my idea of going to an agency. I paid also for her work.

    Ow my god, this is terrible.
  10. It is not written in the lease, because I was planning to work with visale. When that didn't work out, they turned down my request, she said I had to do it this way. This is all documentated in the emails she sent me.
  11. Hi,

    Yes I mentioned it on the virement and the owner send me a quittance for the 12 months rent from July 2020 to July 2021.

    I know I cannot get it back from my bank, she has to give it back to me.

    I paid her a 600€ fee and one month security deposit. And 12 month rent, from which she has to pay me back 10 months

    The woman made up the contract with the name of the owner in it. I also transferred the money to the owners bank account . If you want I can send you a scan of the lease in a pm?
  12. Hi, thanks for the information.

    I send the letter to the owner, that's what she told me to do. The name of the owner is on the contract. The woman works in an agency yes, but I have the impression that this was something private somehow. I don't know, but it causes me stress. It was not put up as private when I wrote her when I saw the advertisement on seloger. It confuses me and I hope the agency where she works for will help me.

    I know that landlords have a lot of rights, but doesn't tenants also do have a lot of rights? I have the proof of payment the owner send me and everything was legal. Even paying one year of rent ahead is not illegal. And when it is, can I be blamed for it and will I loose the money? It was a virement btw.

    I hope you can give me some confidence that everything will be allright. I will for sure find professional help and a lawyer if necessary. 15.000 will make it worth it and I didn't do anything wrong imo.

    Thanks for your help! I still believe that the woman is just trying to bother me because she is pissed about the fact that I cancel the contract already after 2 months. And that she will pay me back.

    I was also planning to pay for any repairs myself. The shower door exploded a few weeks ago and I will have to replace it, although it was not my fault. I offered to pay for it so she has no reason to keep the deposit. But if she is not planning to pay me back it doesn't make sense or..?
  13. Thanks for your answer. It's a unfurnished contract that says the landlord cannot cancel the contract before 3 years. I can cancel any time, with a delay of 1 month since I live in a zone tendue.

    There is no doubt about that.

    The thing is, that I rented this place with the help of an agency. But the woman that works in the agency and did all the work for me is the owner, or her husband is the owner, I am not sure about that. That's also the reason that she is mad at me. She takes it very personal.

    Since she is the owner and I paid her the money (I didn't know I was transferring the money to her husband) it makes it more complicated. Normally the estate agency is not personally involved and you will have more protection from them when problems occur. In my case, I have the feeling that there is no protection at all. When I told her about my problems her she just yelled at me.

    I will contact the estate agency tomorrow, may they can help. I also will get in contact with a lawyer.

    The contract didn't end yet, that's why I thought I should wait till one month is over. Normally they have to pay you the deposit back in 1 month? That was the time I was talking about.

    I am very nervous and so afraid :(
  14. Thank you, very helpful. I am in a 3-years unfurnished contract. I didn't know it was illegal to pay one year of rent. I thought it was quite common when you cannot find a guarantee? Of course I didn't know so much about renting in France before I came here. No I know that it s easy to find an insurance company that takes care of it. But I was desperately in need of an apartment.

    The woman from the agency was difficult from the beginning, but she was nice. Now that I am moving out she is yelling at me. But my contract ends the 24th of September so she still has time to pay the rent back. The only thing is that she doesn't answer my question when I ask her when to get it back. She said: I don't know, may be I will need it for repairs. Which scares me, since it's 15000€. I kindly ask her to transfer the money back, buy she is just ignoring me now. May be I should give it some time?

    I am btw not regretting that I move out. The apartment was quite expensive and noisy and I didn't want to be there. But of course I regret that I paid her so much money. I just hope for the best. I will definitely have a look at this websites you guys mentioned.
  15. Hi, thanks for your reply. I think it's allowed when you offer to pay one year rent in advance yourself. Of course I was not planning to move out already after a few month and the situation now is very stressful. Especially because the woman of the agency is extremely unfriendly now. She was not like that!

    Is there an organization that protects tenants where they offer help when you are in trouble? I quess I am in big trouble..
  16. I am experiencing huge problems with my landlord/appartement at the moment and I hope you can help me.

    I found an apartment that started from the 15th of july. It was very hard to get it, since the estate agency asked for a lot or papers. The guarantee was the main problem, and since I could not find someone I decided to offer to pay one year of rent ahead. Only this way I managed to get the apartement I am in now. It took me one month to get it all done.

    When I entered the appartement it turned out to be very noisy. I live next to the maindoor of the appartement + elevator + door to the stairways and there is noise the whole day. Everybody is smashing the doors and there is no isolation so I cannot sleep or work here in a normal way. Also there was an accident with the shower door, which exploded spontaneously. I read in the internet that that happens sometimes, but it was real bad luck that it happened right after I moved in. But I felt really bad in the apartment and already after 1 week I decided to find another appartement.

    The woman that rents me the apartement who turned out to be also the owner of the apartement, which I didnt know before, is now very angry at me and started to yell at me when I told her about the noise and the problems I experience here. She told me that there is no noise, that I am the problem myself and that she did all the work for me so I can't leave the appartement.

    I think there is no rule for leaving an appartement and that there is no minimum period that you have to stay.

    I brought her my letter, which was difficult since the name of the contract is not the same as the name on the letter box. The letter I send to her by courier never arrived since he couldn't find the apartment. When I decided to go there myself I found out that her name was on the Lettre Box, and not the name mentioned in the contract.

    Apart from the fact that I paid her 1 year as a garantee, she also asked me to pay one month deposit on top of it. Which is not allowed I think?

    Since I paid her a lot of money to garantee for myself and I am moving out in 2 weeks, I asked her if she could pay me the money back since I need it. She will not need it since I paid 1 month deposit as well (1100€) which she can use for any repairs.

    Ofcourse, she refused to pay me the money back.

    I will be moving out on the 24th of september. The money I paid her in advance was 12 months of rent + 1 month rent deposit. Plus ofcourse the agency fee.

    What is the best thing to do now? Is she allowed to keep the money and how can I get it back? I am not sure if one year of rent as a garantee can be used for any repairs as well. Besides that, she asked for more money than she was allowed.

    I hope you can help me since this is causing me a lot of stress. The woman keeps on yelling to me, saying that I am totally wrong, that I am rude since she was doing all the work for me (which I paid for ofcourse!) and that she is very angry.

    I hope you can tell me what to do with the situation and how to get my money back.

    I have a proof for the one year rent I paid but I realize that it depends on her goodwill if she will pay me the money back or not.
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