<<Any ideas please. No wonder we lose members>> Once apon a year we had fun here...then the blue rinse internet police moved in, wrinklies who can type, who are expert on all subjects...bored old biddies who jump down the throats of folk who don't fit the criteria. Second home owners who visit once or twice a year wondering if they can use their kettle or if the plumbing is rocket science etc etc. Pull this forum Archant, it died a long time ago. Chris