richard51

Well there you go - the commander in chief of the old Codgers brigade and their God has finally agreed with my comment on this thread that the US of A, representing the West, should not be sticking its nose into the Middle East. Just like BoJo !! the well documented liar, sacked as a journalist, but still so popular as a racist is showing his true Bullington club philosophy and continuing it whilst in politics. NB - I like how most posts here are becoming useful - I will apologise for this particular one but hope some others will realise they that they also need to do the same - without personal attacks.

Does this simple thread not show how bad/unhelpful WBs comments are!

I have every right to an opinion without being insulted or called stupid names. Socrates made a good quote I believe.

I don't bet, but how can you give any credence whatsoever to a liar like Mr Johnson.

And when Northern Ireland leaves they will have to change it again. A bit premature excluding the EU methinks.

What a bizarre racist view of the Middle Eastern people you have Cathar Tours- a stage on from that of Idun. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabs It would indeed be best for the West neither to give nor sell weapons to any factions in Middle East and to keep out of their politics totally. TE Lawrence fought alongside Arab forces during world war 1and I believe was shocked at how they were let down afterwards by the British. I think that quoting a storyline from a movie as true fact is somewhat strange.

I think, Cathar Tours, that what these older people are saying now is that there have been lots of diabolical events, the holocaust being only one. They are correct and imho its a shame that people people in the west only focus on what they think is relevant to them. For goodness sake an estimate of 85 million people died in ww2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties I actually believe that there are a considerable and rising number of people who are willing to support people who are currently being oppressed - we can learn from the past but not totally correct all the old wrongs. Its a shame that Idun thinks otherwise. Sermon over and sod spelling.

"For every Palestine killed back then 3.5 British military were killed."" This quote is what made me respond - I felt it somewhat confusing in the context and may have conflated different eras. I made the comment about conscription to avoid the assumption that you were talking about the Arab uprising pre-ww2. I dont know where the 3.5 to 1 comes from. The reference I quote I think is accurate. NB I have not had the pleasure of hitting 70 yet.

"For example most of the British troops in Palestine were conscripts and didn't want to be there mainly because of the kill rate. For every Palestine killed back then 3.5 British military were killed" Just for historic information the above does not really tell the true story. The Irgun were the predominent terrorist group and British conscription did not occur until the outbreak of ww2. Sykes -Picot was arround ww1 when it was against the Ottoman empire. https://www.nam.ac.uk/explore/conflict-Palestine

What better history than listening to people who were there. It is indeed strange that 40 odd percent of the yougov poll have read and studied history to the extent that they think British Governance must have been wonderful. Probably through the Daily Mail etc headlines. How bizarre also how the racist Churchill (pretty much undeniable) was so beloved. (See last comment in the reference). Anyway, British influence is all over now.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/worst-atrocities-british-empire-amritsar-boer-war-concentration-camp-mau-mau-a6821756.html Cajal - a friends father was a British soldier in Palestine. He once said that he was given a gun, but was not allowed to use it even when he saw terrible atrocities being commmited. The "jolly good chaps" myth is just that.

I hope, Judith, that you were not too upset when you were "flashed". I recently got a ticket which was delivered only a few weeks after the "offence". I did notice a gendarme with a camera at a point where the speed limit rapidly changed down to 50 kmph. Funnily enough it was near Calais and in my UK reg. car and I was going "with the flow". Grrr.

Should you not know that if you are employing her?

Yes, mind boggling biological systems. Interesting that apoptosis was headlined - truely remarkable but we dont know why it doesnt always work. Perhaps his next one will be on the wonders of the universe of which we are a very small part.

Better watch out for Samoa then. Cheers, m8.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/07/how-gentlemen-supplanted-hooligans-in-football/ Good game this.

Perhaps you should not insult me then. BTW - where do you get the idea that I post when I "have drink". Its incorrect and another silly comment expounded by WB.

!. I object to your insults. 2. I object to barked orders by Guardian. 3 I object.to silly off the subject comments and insults in my case by WB.

Generalising to say that being entertained by football implies that you are a plebe is quite disgusting. "The True Gentleman is the man whose conduct proceeds from good will and an acute sense of propriety, and whose self-control is equal to all emergencies; who does not make the poor man conscious of his poverty, the obscure man of his obscurity, or any man of his inferiority or deformity; who is himself humbled if necessity compels him to humble another; who does not flatter wealth, cringe before power, or boast of his own possessions or achievements; who speaks with frankness but always with sincerity and sympathy; whose deed follows his word; who thinks of the rights and feelings of others, rather than his own; and who appears well in any company, a man with whom honor is sacred and virtue safe." I think CT is not a gentleman and so in his own words does not play rugby. Actually you really prove my points at all levels.

Generalising to say that being entertained by football implies that you are a plebe is quite disgusting. "The True Gentleman is the man whose conduct proceeds from good will and an acute sense of propriety, and whose self-control is equal to all emergencies; who does not make the poor man conscious of his poverty, the obscure man of his obscurity, or any man of his inferiority or deformity; who is himself humbled if necessity compels him to humble another; who does not flatter wealth, cringe before power, or boast of his own possessions or achievements; who speaks with frankness but always with sincerity and sympathy; whose deed follows his word; who thinks of the rights and feelings of others, rather than his own; and who appears well in any company, a man with whom honor is sacred and virtue safe." I think CT is not a gentleman and so in his own words does not play rugby. Actually you really prove my points at all levels.

A super thread which I used previously but the last post from WB just shows how silly its become here . Please stop it WB.

Well, if the UK deals with the rest of the world rather than its neighbours then just think how much extra pollution it would cause in transport. NB China did apply a one child per family policy. Not "democratic" apparently and a terrible country.

Is RWC more entertaining that "Strictly". IMHO yes, however .............. Isn't it just populist entertainment for the masses, even though its for those who think they are a higher class than association football people and still believe in the british world rule and subsequent ability to pillage and prosper. The higher class diversed from the UK a long time ago. At this moment probably hedging against the pound hoping for a no deal brexit. Their income not related to the pound. ITV doing well so far. .

Thanks JayJay.

DT (and as a consequence BJ) are the problem though. Just look at DTs policies. They are certainly not the solution.