Ta Da!!!! Apologies for not replying but been away in deepest cornwall with no tinternet and also trying the various machinations suggested to try to get one of these to see if I can help anybody else - what a palava!!! Anyway, I have at least managed to register for one via http://www.vinci-autoroutes.com/telepeage-@/107/view-107-category.html - however you have to "trick" the post code and hope that it doesn't muck up your delivery address. What you have to do is instead of using a UK post code of say bh13 9dd you put in b13 9dd - i know, not perfect and a risk but i think that after trying various permutations that the inegma code was easier to break!!! ALSO make sure you put a space between the first and last part of the address or it will again not recognise it. So you get past that and you are at payment and the dreaded french bank account brick wall. I put in my mastercard details for the first set up which it accepts and then confirms with a reference number and a pdf of a form for your bank account details (which I have not completed yet but will and send off- i suspect we might then hit the bumpers) So we will see if one arrives in a few days and I will keep you posted. other tip for those of less fluent in French - just cut and paste words/phrases or indeed whole documents into google translate (from the drop down menu on google under "more" - works wonders!!! I am sure that the French toll comanies are missing a trick with us Brits not to mention the dutch etc. - no english translations on their web pages - need french bank account - help lines that you cannot phone from UK - when you can you get a very long recorded message in French which left me for dead after 10 seconds!! They could make a mint out of it if they opened it up!! anybody know why they don't (apart from keeping it for themselves?) Anyway I will keep you posted to what occurs. Robert keep you all posted